Sexing

[23matt3]

Trying to figure out the sex of my fire bellys. Here attached is a picture of my fire bellys. *note that this is not their tank but I merely put them in here to take a better picture, because the tank that I have is covered in plants and couldn't get a decent picture of all of them.

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[Sith the turtle]

Just by back and size, to my un-trained eyes, I see 4 females and 1 male. Let me pull up the sexing guide :happy:

 

[Sith the turtle]

:happy:: Caudata Culture Articles - Sexing

 

[23matt3]

Awesome thanks! Was thinking about breeding once it becomes cooler. How does that process work?


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[23matt3]

Was just wondering how to tell if one is pregnant as well?


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[Sith the turtle]

Kind of hard to describe, the female will be fat around the abdomen only. Look for pictures of gravid newts

 

[Asevernnnn]

Uh, is one of them a Triturus newt, or some other specie of newt other than H. orientalis? If so, they should really be separated.

 

[Chinadog]

Uh, is one of them a Triturus newt, or some other specie of newt other than H. orientalis? If so, they should really be separated.

That's what I thought when I first looked! Well, I actually thought it looked like a P. waltl. I reckon its just one of the less common colour forms of H. orientalis with the angle of the camera making it look more stocky than it is.
There's a pic of one that's similar in this thread.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/f1-gen...roductions-area/95971-hello-land-o-newts.html

 

[Sith the turtle]

I thought that it was a dusky salamander at first

 

[23matt3]

No they are all Chinese Fire bellys. I just have a couple that were given to me that are older, they are a more grey color.

 

[23matt3]

Kinda hard to get all my little guys in pictures but I have 5 of them..

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Let me know if you need better pics. It's hard to get pics of them or being still


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[Chinadog]

I don't have any orientalis, but to my eyes they all look like girls. I don't know what the odds are of ending up with no males in a group of five newts, probably similar to winning a lottery! If they are all female it stands to reason that you haven't seen any courting behaviour...

Edit; I've tidied up and merged your other two threads about eggs. There's no need to start new threads on the same subject when you already have one that's still open.

 

[23matt3]

Thank you. I noticed my little one didn't make it in the pictures.. he looks different..

noticeably smaller and has a thinner and longer tail (don't know if that helps any)

also his Cloaca seems a bit puffier than the other 4


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[23matt3]

not sure why that other pic posted twice but here is another angle at the little one. He does look different from the others, but didn't know if that meant anything.. Is this one a Female as well?


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[Chinadog]

Could you get a decent shot of its belly like the others, it's impossible to say from above outside the breeding season.

 

[23matt3]

This is as decent as I can get. He's a squirmer lol

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[Chinadog]

Well, I'd say that one could be a boy! The tail looks shorter and the cloaca more rounded than your others. Hopefully somebody more experienced with H. orientalis will be along soon to offer their opinion as well.

 

[23matt3]

Well, I'd say that one could be a boy! The tail looks shorter and the cloaca more rounded than your others. Hopefully somebody more experienced with H. orientalis will be along soon to offer their opinion as well.

I thought that as well! But I keep getting different answers from people so I'm not quite sure. I'm really hoping so. It's a lot harder to obtain these guys in Florida than it used to be.


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