Illness/Sickness: She is stressed now!

My tank won't get as warm as yours because you live in Australia and I live in Cold, old England :)

The temp of my tank is normally around 18c anyway but now I know what to do if my tank get's too hot.
 
Turning off the filter negates the purpose of having a filter. It could cause your bacterial colony in the filter to die. This can cause more problems than good.

And freeze-dried food isn't as nutritious as frozen or live.
 
Turning off the filter negates the purpose of having a filter. It could cause your bacterial colony in the filter to die. This can cause more problems than good.

And freeze-dried food isn't as nutritious as frozen or live.

So now I shouldn't turn the filter off for a bit? It's just because someone told me that they turn their filter off for abit aswell on here.

I already know freeze dried isn't as good as frozen or live but it is easier to feed it to her while I'm sorting her out etc.
 
You shouldn't turn it off for periods of time. It's not good for the filter either.

"Sorting her out" should mean providing her adequate nutrition too. Changing to a more nutritious food might help some of the problems you've been having.
 
Turning off the filter negates the purpose of having a filter. It could cause your bacterial colony in the filter to die.


Kaysie, I've never heard this. In fact, I've been told that as long as the media remain submersed it can survive for several weeks. How do the bottled 'jump-start' bacteria colonies survive a 6+ month shelf life? I'm talking about ones that actually contain viable bacteria and work, like bio-spira/safestart, Dr. Tim's, and a couple others.
 
Kaysie, I've never heard this. In fact, I've been told that as long as the media remain submersed it can survive for several weeks. How do the bottled 'jump-start' bacteria colonies survive a 6+ month shelf life? I'm talking about ones that actually contain viable bacteria and work, like bio-spira/safestart, Dr. Tim's, and a couple others.

Perhaps Kaysie didn't mean 'die', per se.

There are two main types of bacteria in the tank: aerobic and anaerobic. The former is desired. Aerobic bacteria rely on a constant supply of oxygen in order to proliferate and survive. Thus, by turning off the filter, the water is no longer being agitated which, in turn, negates (to a certain extent without taking into account natural gas exchage, i.e. diffusion) the gas exchange between the environment and the water. This is also bearing in mind that there isn't that much dissolved oxygen in the tank (with the exception of the temperature of the tank). Turning off the filter will also increase the "bioload" to the tank. A tank with a heavy "bioload" will inevitably have less dissolved oxygen.

Most people have claimed that Biospira works, but I have never tried it. However, it is certainly better the "couple others" that you are referring to, namely Cylce. Cycle contains bacteria in a bottle much like Biospira, but it is kept at room temperature. When you purchase the bottle, you have dead bacteria in a bottle. So, you have effectively paid ~$12 for a bottle of dead bacteria, which will only add to the "bioload". Biospira, on the other hand, must be kept in the fridge. There is more dissolved oxygen at lower temperatures, which means the aerobic bacteria are able to survive.

Jay.
 
No, I meant die.

Without food (in this case, aqueous ammonia or nitrite), removal of waste (nitrite or nitrate), and an adequate supply of oxygen (from the water) the bacteria will essentially suffocate.

As for bottled cycle products, I've heard mixed results on all of them. Certainly any that isn't refrigerated is a total waste of money. With a background in microbiology, I can tell you that a bottle of bacteria probably wouldn't survive more than a few days (and certainly not more than a few weeks) before poisoning itself with waste or consuming its entire food supply. With refrigeration, a bottle may survive up to 6 months, but I wouldn't put my $20 on it.
 
I have had excellent results with two products and agree that most of them might as well be snake oil. The claims for shelf life on the two I have had success with are 6 months at room temperature, and one year if refrigerated. Marinelands Bio-Spria which has now been bought out by Tetra and is marketed as Tera SafeStart, and Dr. Tim's One and Only. Both of these products were devloped by Dr. Timothy A. Hovanec. I certainly am not a biologist of any sort but am very curious as to how the bacteria can live in a sealed bottle and not it my disabled filter.
 
"Sorting her out" should mean providing her adequate nutrition too. Changing to a more nutritious food might help some of the problems you've been having.

When I said "sorting her out", I mean giving her something to eat just after she came out of the fridge without having any food and while I'm sorting out her tank doing quick water tests.
 
I certainly am not a biologist of any sort but am very curious as to how the bacteria can live in a sealed bottle and not it my disabled filter.

My point is that I highly doubt they DO live in the bottle, especially without refrigeration. Without refrigeration, they would die rather quickly. I think '6 month shelf life' is total hype.

I suppose I could test this, buy some agar, create cultures from various aged bottles.
 
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