Species and gender?

They are excellent looking newts,We think they are 2 wenxi and 2 asperimus although if someone can confirm and sex them?
Hopefully Ummi will have a look?!
 
Sorry guys but i spoke to the vendor myself and they are just Black Knobby Newts I even had photos emailed to me from every angle. The man seemed to know a bit about them too so I highly doubt these are Wenxianensis :/

They are nice specimens though, however shouldnt you of really let them calm down a bit after a lot of traveling instead of basically stressing them out further?
 
Most of those are not T.asperrimus complex, but are T.wenxianensis complex. None are T.broadoridgus, which means you have T.wenxianensis or perhaps T.wenxianensis plus T.dabienicus. I saw one animal which could be T.asperrimus complex, but it's hard to keep track from a video. If there's anything in there in the T.asperrimus complex, ID will be almost impossible at the moment due to the number of undescribed species. Odds are, they are all T.wenxianensis, since all of the other species have fairly narrow distributions and it makes more sense that a bunch of animals of one species with a wider range would enter the trade.

T.asperrimus complex have very prominent rib nodules, are often brown, may have color on the rib nodules, and have a red cloaca.

T.wenxianensis complex have flattened and adjoining rib nodules, and are black [so far]. T.wenxianensis usually has a black cloaca. T.broadoridgus has a very wide dorsal ridge, grooves between the nodules, and a red cloaca. T.dabienicus has a red cloaca. So if the cloaca is black, you have T.wenxianensis, and if your shipment has T.wenxianensis, then those with red cloacas are probably also T.wenxianensis.
 
Sorry guys but i spoke to the vendor myself and they are just Black Knobby Newts I even had photos emailed to me from every angle. The man seemed to know a bit about them too so I highly doubt these are Wenxianensis :/

They are nice specimens though, however shouldnt you of really let them calm down a bit after a lot of traveling instead of basically stressing them out further?

They'd chilled out for about 4 hours after arriving before I took the video. They needed to be transferred to more spacious but still temporary containers for observation before being introduced to their new habitat for the next few months, so it was a good time to examine them.
 
An update on these:

I've had them indoors at 18-19C for about a month, and they've been completely aquatic for the past 3 weeks or so, by which I mean sitting/crawling around on the bottom and not coming up for air. The closest they come to getting out of the water is when one of them occasionally pokes it's snout above the surface. I take it that's not behaviour in keeping with wenxianensis? They're eating well, look healthy and seem happy with the conditions in their tank.

I uploaded some photos of them from a while back:

http://www.caudata.org/forum/members/peter5930-albums-tylototriton-asperrimus-probably.html
 
That would seem normal for pretty much any tylo at this time of year.

No, I have no input on gender, btw.
 
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