T. hainanensis or T. vietnamensis? (newt ID)

[turbo]

i bought this 2 newts few weeks ago, and I'm sure that the black is T.H, but i am not quite sure the brown one~could any one tell me what is it ?

http://hk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ultraman3nike/album?.dir=/4bd9scd&.src=ph&.tok=phDlRxFBWMriTNrX

 

[wouter]

Very difficult to say, because the variation in T. asperrimus and T. hainanensis is very large... The brown one does look like T. vietnamensis, but I guess it's T. hainanensis. So far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) T. vietnamensis is only imported by a couple of persons, not by big traders.

Research done this year showed that T. vietnamensis is genetically very similar to T. hainanensis. If the brown animal really is T. hainanensis, then these two species show many morphological similarities too!

 

[harry]

to compare look to my movie of them

http://home.hetnet.nl/~dresens/vietnam.wmv

 

[houmian]

This 2 color type is 1 species, but this guy is not hainanensis also not vitnamensis, of course also not asperrimus or wenxianensis.

(Message edited by houmian on December 02, 2006)