Tiger salamander axolotl paludarium

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Been using this 36" exo terra for awhile now. I keep axolotls tiger salamanders and red salamanders in here together. There is a waterfall pump that keeps the water from the main water area circulating through the entire gravel bed for biological filtration. Although tigers are burrowing salamanders, I keep mine in a very aquatic habitat. They are thriving and very healthy. There are hiding spots everywhere inside and if they choose they can avoid the water. They actually spend more than half of their time submerged in the water. There are three tiger salamanders in here and at any given point there is certain to be one or two submerged in the water with the axolotl's. My setup is not indicative of breeding tiger salamanders and although the axolotl's have been bred in this Tank there has never been any tiger salamander attempts to breed with axolotl's. All of the inhabitants coexist without damaging each other. The tiger salamanders have never damaged the axolotl's or vice versa. There are also to red salamanders in here. I rarely see them except for when I turn the lights on in the morning.
I do use gravel in the tank. However it is a large gravel that cannot be swallowed by the axolotl's accidentally. The large gravel helps to allow water to freely circulate from the aquatic section to the terrestrial section allowing for biological filtration. I use a Fluval 404 canister filter to filter the approximate 7 gallons of water in this aquarium. The water intake is covered by a sponge to prevent accidentally trapping any inhabitants. To prevent flow issues with the axolotl's the water return goes across the back of the aquarium and into the gravel as a waterfall where it flows back into the main water body through the gravel instead of creating flow. The tank is lit with compact florescent. I keep philodendrons and bromeliads as the vegetation. I can't remember the name of the water plant but it might be hydrophillia. The axolotl's seem to prefer being under the vegetation and when enough vegetation is present they don't try to hide. I usually feed nightcrawlers however I sometimes feed crickets with calcium dust and occasionally goldfish as treats. I've had this Tank for three years now.
 

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Your tank has some features I like, though I might do some of it differently. Do you have a photo of the whole tank?

You might want to consider siliconing some of the gravel together into larger pieces/structures. This shows how large of a piece of gravel an axolotl can ingest:
http://www.caudata.org/cc/images/articles/illness/xray_post_95633.jpg

Did you really mean 7 gallons of water? Have you measured the nitrate level? With the number of animals, it could be sky-high.
 

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I posted a bunch. Hmm Let me try again
 

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Let's see if this works
 

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Tigers and axolotls should be kept seperate, Tigers only come to the water to breed even though they stay close to the vernal pools they breed in, and I'm sure they get in those pools some outside of breeding. However the majority of the time they like to be on land, the gravel isn't really the best thing, they are called MOLE salamanders for a reason. they like to burrow. That being said you should make the tiger something simple with moss or coconut fiber to burrow in and a decent sized water dish just enough for it to submerge in, and the axolotls should be kept in an all water tank seperately. Tigers aren't as aquatic as alot of people think. This should help you alot Caudata Culture Articles - Tiger Salamander 101 Good luck with your animals.
 
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    The second image was how it looked the first time, it was mixed with some other poop like stuff. after that its been small and without the poopy stuff
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    The second photo looks reminiscent of partially-digested worms, though I've never seen anything like that. Have you checked your parameters lately?
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    Right now theyre in smaller tubs that i do daily water changes in
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    I use Prime to dechlorinate the water, which was recommend by the girl I got them from
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    For now I'd tub the axolotl and do daily 100% water changes until you're able to test your parameters
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    Hi! I was wondering if anyone knew if java fern, the floaters like frog bit, anubis, and moss balls could be all kept without any substrate with the axies? I have sand right now with an axie who is over a year but we were just testing the waters really but I continously read about a lot of health issues with sand impacting constipation and hiding bad bacteria and such, we just want to make him comfy.
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    I don't know about the java ferns, but the moss balls and anything that floats on the surface of the water should be totally fine! I'm not saying the java ferns aren't an option, I just personally don't know if they can live without some sort of substrate
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    Java ferns actually do better when they are attached to a piece of wood or other decor anyway. Their rhizomes can be easily burried in sand and then they dont grow properly. The others can also be kept without sand no problem.
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    @Chelsea smith All of the plants you've listed can be kept without substrate. Plants with rhizomes cannot be submerged in substrate, as burying the rhizome will cause the plant to suffocate and rot. You can pin these plants under on onto decoration, rocks, etc., just be careful that the rhizome is not in substrate. Moss balls and floating plants, naturally, do not need substrate either. Do note that floating plants require a good amount of light.
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    Hi guys, I have an 11 month old axoltol who is about 9 inches long. She normally is a pig when it comes to food. I switch between pellets and night crawlers, and sometimes blood worms if she had a big meal the day before. Anyways, I went to go feed her a night crawler today, and she wouldn’t eat it! She turned her head and went to the corner. I noticed that when I cut this worm it seems to release a lot more goop then other worms I’ve cut, I tried to wash it off the best I could with cold water. Do you think maybe she didn’t want to eat it because of that? She normally will eat anything in front of her face. Water perimeters are perfectly normal by the way, and temp is at a steady 63 degrees F.
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    Also, she looks perfectly fine. Tail is straight, gills aren’t curled, no fungus or anything. It’s probably no big deal, it’s just unusual behavior for her so it really caught my eye. Love my girl and want to make sure everything’s ok.
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    Paige1warren: Also, she looks perfectly fine. Tail is straight, gills aren’t curled, no fungus or anything... +1
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