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Vinegar Eels?

Hunter9

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I have a few questions about vinagar eels.
  • Are the small enough 2 be fed to larve or will the need to be chopped?
  • Are they even an acceptable food for aquatic newts?
  • Has anyone had success feeding these to larve or adult newts?
I read some articles about vingar eels and they sounded easy 2 culture and feed to fish and ect. and a plus is that they can live in freshwater for a long period of time, so they wont foul water easily. Does any one have experiences that controdict what i have read? i would like 2 feed these to my larve in the future and possibly my adults as a treat. so pleas give any info. you can. thaks in advance
 

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They can be used as food for larvae but for only the first few weeks of life, which is basically just long enough for them to make it to a larger food item. I remember reading somewhere, probably on Caudata Culture, that larvae won't grow well if fed a diet of microworms over a long period of time.
 

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Vinegar eels are tiny, you will not need to chop them, and I don't think you would succeed if you tried! I've started to try them out and am considering them as small larva food instead of newly hatched brine shrimp. I've had problems with vinegar carry over in separation using a plug of fibre which resulted in terrible water quality and deaths (of a batch of baby guppies). I havn't yet used them on amphibian larvae.
 

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I would recomend micro worms. I do not know any newt larvae that are too small to feed on micro worms.
I feed them to small kaiseri larvae the first two weeks, then the larvae ar big enough for Cyclops and other crustaceans I catch in nearby ponds.

the micro worms are bigger than vinegar worms and more easy to separate from breeding substrate.
If the culture in a plastic tub is growing many worms will crawl up the walls of the tub and you just "scratch" them off these walls with a small tool and put it into the laervaes box.

Culturing these worms is very easy once you have a starter set of some worms.
 
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