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What Species of Fire Belly Is This?

kwarzym

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I got a few Fire Bellied newts that I originally assumed were some type of Japanese Fire Belly Newt, but one of them has developed a crest (albeit a small one, and is definitely trying to breed with the others) which I didn't think Japanese Fire Belly newts got. I have attached a few pictures. His tail has also turned bluish (which was less surprising)
 

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Definitively Triturus sp. (T. carnifex or T. cristatus).
The throat is too dark for a karelini and a dobrogicus would have been more slender.
 

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I got a few Fire Bellied newts that I originally assumed were some type of Japanese Fire Belly Newt, but one of them has developed a crest (albeit a small one, and is definitely trying to breed with the others) which I didn't think Japanese Fire Belly newts got. I have attached a few pictures. His tail has also turned bluish (which was less surprising)
My guess is Triturus dobrogicus. The second picture looks a lot like a dobrogicus.
 

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Thanks everyone - I think you are all correct that this is some variety of Tritorus.
@peteyusef - Yep, it was a random find at a Reptile expo in Colorado Springs early this Summer, from a breeder/store from Texas.
 

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Thanks everyone - I think you are all correct that this is some variety of Tritorus.
@peteyusef - Yep, it was a random find at a Reptile expo in Colorado Springs early this Summer, from a breeder/store from Texas.
Yeah that was the one i saw them at sorry that happened to you
 

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Every year more newts are called by the common name "fire belly". That is why it is good to know the Genus and species.
 

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Every year more newts are called by the common name "fire belly". That is why it is good to know the Genus and species.
Agreed. They were an unexpected find, I have been passively looking for a while to add to my dwindling numbers of Cynops Orientalis from over a decade ago. They were juveniles that looked like some variety of Japanese Fire Belly for the first few months, but over time I became more and more suspicious.

I'm a little annoyed, but they are still fun.
 
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