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Which cricket is best?

Sean90

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I was a pet store buying some crickets recently and a member of staff first told me that the black crickets were silent even though the website says different. However they suggested black crickets have more nutritional value is this true?
 

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For some reason my newts are not much on the black crickets, as for silent crickets i used to worry about this with escapes and the missus and crickets chirping.
I never use above a 2nds cricket for any of my newts, even large adult newts dont get bigger than a seconds, they are not big enough to chirp, if any get out they would have to moult eat etc before they were chirping, i have never had a problem since swopping to 2nds for the last 5 or 6 years.
 

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I prefer using blacks as they're slower moving. Silent/banded crickets have long antennae and seem to leap rather than run. Once dusted and cooled to newt temperature there's not much in it but I feed and water mine and keep them on top of the viv stack where it's warm so any escapees whilst being decanted into a dusting bag have to be slow enough for me to catch!

As I use bean weevils and fruit flies for many of my beasties I have other options but nothing gutloads on colour-enhancing fish flakes like crickets do, so they're a staple on my menu -well, not mine exactly but you get the point..

Black crickets are far from silent but as Davo says, they need to be adult and male before this is a problem. Cool them, dust them and offer them in a smooth sided dish (or place your newts in a feeding container) and escapes are unlikely.
 

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I personally don't think crickets should be fed to caudates [or even reptiles for that matter!] Their exoskeletons are difficult to digest and they don't provide much nutrition. A fat earthworm is much healthier :)
 

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I personally don't think crickets should be fed to caudates [or even reptiles for that matter!] Their exoskeletons are difficult to digest and they don't provide much nutrition. A fat earthworm is much healthier :)

But impossible to gut load to ensure proper colour development and balanced nutrition. Caudates have had an awfully long time to evolve the capacity to digest chitin - when you eat invertebrates in a world full of beetles there's a good chance you're going to encounter lots of crunchy meals. Bloodworm has a lot of chitin but can you imagine a world where caudate keepers don't use them?
 
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    SamAxolotl: @FragileCorpse, I think a plastic tub would be fine along with a spray bottle to keep it humid... +1
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