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Went to the shop to day was menna be getting 2 fbn but ended up with three tiny lil baby ones ill upload some pictures soon!

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Cizza, The species specific forums are usually reserved for more detailed or advanced information. Please try to have a bit more content than you have purchased two newts, but feel free to post pictures of them in the photo gallery.

Also, you should note that if you already have a japanese firebelly newt, Cynops pyrrhogaster, the newts you have just purchased are more than likely Cynops orientalis and should be kept separately.
 
Cizza, "menna" and "lil" are not words. I won't discuss your punctuation... Can you please try to use correct English - some people seem to think this forum is a giant text message. They are mistaken. We are open to everyone, be they 13 year old child or 70 year old professor but it's hard to encourage intelligent discussion (or understandable discussion for people who are not native English speakers) when there is so much drivel-ese. Please try to set an example for others.
 
Sorry i'll always use proper english now.
Magustrate they are kept separately, i would also be worried that my other newt would eat them.
 
magustrate said:
the newts you have just purchased are more than likely Cynops orientalis
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Slightly off topic – Whilst I can’t vouch for the animals mentioned in this thread (the size makes me think orientalis too), I’ve noticed that Cynops pyrrhogaster is often more readily available in UK pet shops than C.orientalis. It’s been that way for about a year. This trend clearly hasn’t reached the US where they are still considered a rare find in the pet trade. The last time I saw C.orientalis in a non-specialist pet shop was in New York over a year ago.

I wonder if C.orientalis supply is drying up? Certainly specimens of recent years have been getting increasingly smaller which may indicate dwindling adult populations in areas of collection. The majority of C.pyrrhogaster I've seen recently appear to be wild caught although there's been quite a few cb on the market.
 
Mark, my humble 2 dutch cents:

In Holland we see more C. orientalis recently in the common petshops. Though I'm not a fequent visitor of a lot of different petshops, there are clearly more C. orientalis to be found there. I also see an increase in personal ads on the internet where people try to sell their orientalis again, so that could be linked.
 
Around by me C. orientalis are still very prevelant although I have seem some new Paramesotriton's that I haven't seen before. The most recent was fairly heavily yellow spotted.

Ed
 
Regardless of what the species is, most 'pet shop finds' are easily bred, and are available in fairly high numbers as captive bred animals. I really see no need in buying animals from the pet shop.
 
In Germany there are still a lot more C. orientalis. But there were some pyrrhogaster in the pettrade at the beginning of this year. I have'nt seen them there for more than ten years.
But as said before:
Kaysie said:
Regardless of what the species is, most 'pet shop finds' are easily bred, and are available in fairly high numbers as captive bred animals. I really see no need in buying animals from the pet shop.
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These three are Cynops orientalis and it wasn’t a pet shop exactly I brought them from it’s a reptile and amphibian specialist shop.

Well my Cynops Pyrohogaster was already pretty big when I got him but I doubt he was wild caught because he eats from tweezers all the time.
 
Cizza said:
These three are Cynops orientalis and it wasn’t a pet shop exactly I brought them from it’s a reptile and amphibian specialist shop.
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They all come from the same 2 or 3 wholesalers usually, unless they're special orders (which happens occasionally if there's money in it for the retailer).

Cizza said:
Well my Cynops Pyrohogaster was already pretty big when I got him but I doubt he was wild caught because he eats from tweezers all the time.
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That's meaningless. Wild caught does not mean they can't become tame.
 
i didnt say he was not wild caught just i doubt it!
Thanks
 
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