Recommended dechlorinator?

Molch

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What do you folks use for a dechlorinator? I'm unfamiliar with those because I don't need them for my water, but I want to get some for the aquariums I set up at local schools, who use tab water. Right now I have only stress coat for them.

I looked into Nutrafin Aqua Clear,
Amquel
Prime

- problem is, most of those seem to have additional stuff in them or claim they "remove ammonia" which makes me nervous....
 
What do you folks use for a dechlorinator? I'm unfamiliar with those because I don't need them for my water, but I want to get some for the aquariums I set up at local schools, who use tab water. Right now I have only stress coat for them.

I looked into Nutrafin Aqua Clear,
Amquel
Prime

- problem is, most of those seem to have additional stuff in them or claim they "remove ammonia" which makes me nervous....



Look sor Tetra AquaSafe or SERA Aquatan. They are the worlds best. Both solutions coming from german brands ;) I use the first.costs around 5euro for 100mL
 
Stress coat is fine if that's what you have on hand. It's the only brand I can find reliably when I'm in the sticks.
 
I prefer Amquel+ over all other brands as it is nothing but sodium thiosulfate in aqueous solution.

I avoid anything with those darned "slime coat" enhancers.
 
they all work the same, i am never too picky. The slime coat stuff just means there will be a little extra bioload in your tank.

I saw a few bottles of some toxic clooking concoction in the pet store the other day which clamed to kill all chlorine, algae and ammonia. try to avoid anything like that of course :D
 
they all work the same, i am never too picky. The slime coat stuff just means there will be a little extra bioload... :D

Sadly, they do not all work the same.

The "extra bioload" may or may not be true dependent on the brand. The real issue with the so-called "slime coat additives" is that these products are designed for fish. Amphibians are not fish.;) Often, these additives are nothing more than high concentration sodium chloride and aloe extract suspension. In the case of Prime and NovAqua in particular I noticed that the resulting irritation did in fact develop an undesired slimy reaction with larval and neotenic caudates when used as directed on the label.

Ever notice the number of posts about (in particular axolotls) and questions involving something like "OMG shedding!" or "White slimy stuff on gills!?!!?!" or "Goop?"? I would feel safe in stating that a good portion of these are direct result of the improper/over use of products designed for fish that include these additives. (coupled with husbandry practices)

I too had all sorts of issues with strange white sludge, wild variation pH, and ammonia spikes and gill fillembrial loss until I dumped using all of those products and zeroed in, through trial and error on the strictly sodium thiosulfate in solution products. By eliminating use of the products utilizing those additives all of those issues stopped for me even though it took years of trial and error.

Normally, I would back such claims up with hard data, research, or a mad scientist experiment, however I am unequipped to prove or disprove such theories at this time. Just over the last few months have I gained the knowledge to explain how and why the Amquel+ works as it does. Even so I do not feel comfortable enough in my knowledge with the subject to properly and quantitatively explain it.:eek:

Therefor I must rely strictly on personal observation and personal anecdotes at this time.
Truthfully, I am of the opinion that local off the tap water chemistry also plays a big role in proper selection. With the little bit of research I have done on the subject, I suspect that potable water standards vary wildly in North America as there is no real national uniform standard for many aspects of chemistry. Carbonate hardness standards are non-existant and treatment methods(use of chlorine, chloramine, flourides, bromides, etc) in particular vary wildly here, unlike in Australia.
 
Heh I use conditioner that is a few years old...and I don't chack what brand it was. Everything's been fine with all amphibians and reptiles.:p
 
Molch - you didn't specify if the the aquariums are for fish or caudates...I assume the latter?
 
I use ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Sodium ascorbate works too.

It takes 2.5 parts of ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate to neutralise 1 part of chlorine, and in the UK, tapwater typically contains 0.5mg/l or less of chlorine, so I add at least 1.25mg/l of ascorbic acid, and usually a bit more to be safe. I also smell and taste the tapwater, since sometimes extra chlorine is added to the system during maintenance, and I need to use extra ascorbic acid if that's the case. In the US, tapwater can contain up to 4mg/l of chlorine, with the levels likely to be high particularly in hot regions, so it'll take 10mg/l of ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate to dechlorinate it.

Here's an excellent page on using ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate for dechlorination.
 
yes, for alpine newts :) Although I may set up a fish tank for them too, but for fish I'd be happy enough with slime coat.

This tetra AquaSafe - any online vendors?
 
yes, for alpine newts :) Although I may set up a fish tank for them too, but for fish I'd be happy enough with slime coat.

This tetra AquaSafe - any online vendors?

Dunno but I am sure many must carry it, I buy mine at Petco or Petsmart.
 
And btw, Tetra AquaSafe Plus:

"The patended PLUS BioExtract formula contains natural biopolymers and essential vitamins and mineral for healthy and clear water."
"Substances in tap water (like chlorine. cloramines and heavy metals) that are dangerous to fish are removed and neutralized."
"Powerful slime colloids reduce stress in fish by protecting gills, delcate membranes, and helping heal wounds"
 
And btw, Tetra AquaSafe Plus:

"The patended PLUS BioExtract formula contains natural biopolymers and essential vitamins and mineral for healthy and clear water."
"Substances in tap water (like chlorine. cloramines and heavy metals) that are dangerous to fish are removed and neutralized."
"Powerful slime colloids reduce stress in fish by protecting gills, delcate membranes, and helping heal wounds"

I dunno...:mad: that sounds like there's more junk than I want in there as well....but I'll see if I find it online

mercy, M. Grenouille!
 
I dunno...:mad: that sounds like there's more junk than I want in there as well....but I'll see if I find it online

mercy, M. Grenouille!

Well I trust Tetra in making the best products! Tetra is German, you should love that fact! ;-)
 
Personally I've always been a die hard Prime fan. I used it for years with fish, and now use it with all my salamanders and have nothing to complain about it. Prime also detoxifies ammonia in a pinch, but doesn't bind it like other dechlorinators do, it converts it to ammonium which your plants and beneficial bacteria can still use. Not that that's better than doing an immediate waterchange, but I know of some people who have ammonia present in their tapwater that use prime to convert it to ammonium to be quickly taken care of by their plants/beneficial bacteria.


If only it didn't stink :rofl:
 
i use eurolife aqua-bio , a simple water conditioner without bactertia vitamins ect.

don't know if this is available outside Europe
 
I use (Tetrafauna Aquasafe for reptiles and amphibians). Says neutralizes chlorine and cholormines. This has worked great for me so far (1 year). I don't think it has slime coat properties to it but hey it might.
Logan
 
I also use Prime from Seachem. I contacted the manufacturer before I got it and they said it is safe for amphibians. It is very concentrated so it's a bit difficult to dose for small amounts of water.
 
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