Ommatotriton in US?

[donatkin]

Anyone in the US keeping these?

 

[donatkin]

I will take that as a no!,

 

[Coastal Groovin]

We really need someone to import about 100 animals from a couple different lines.

 

[Azhael]

There used to be, but since they can be a challenging species to keep it seems that they might have possibly died out.

 

[mr cyclone]

Eggs can be shipped

 

[Coastal Groovin]

How does shipping eggs get around import paperwork?

 

[Stupot1610]

How does shipping eggs get around import paperwork?

I imagine it probably doesn't, but can be done anyway.

Stuart

 

[donatkin]

I used to import a lot of tropical fish. It seemed very easy to get through the paper work. I'm guessing it would be the exporting would be the hang up. I'm going to contact some of my old exporters and see how hard it would be.

 

[michael]

I used to keep them. The juveniles are not real easy to raise up. Imported eggs need the same paperwork as imported animals. With the present regulatory attitude it would not be good to get involved with smuggling.

 

[donatkin]

I'm not talking about smuggling.

 

[FrogEyes]

In general, USA regulations are the difficulty, as all live animals must come through particular ports, with particular paperwork, fees, and inspections. Each individual egg is one animal, and anything 8 or more of a "kind" [as in "salamander" of any species] counts as a commercial import - which demands a $100 permit and potentially higher costs. So, 8 eggs from anywhere outside the USA requires air freight, $100 permit, inspection fees, possibly port exemption fees [doubtful, coming from Europe]. Won't be cheap.

On the other hand, Canada has far fewer regulations in this matter. Animals can be imported to Canada much more cheaply, then driven over the border for much less than air freight. Which doesn't remove the paperwork. Not advocating really, just highlighting the issues associated with USA import/export.

 

[mr cyclone]

I know someone who mailed eggs last year labelled ommatotriton vittatus eggs on the deceleration for customs VIA Royal Mail , there was no problems

 

[michael]

I have heard of people shipping salamanders to and from the U.S. without permits lots of times. I choose not to participate in it. It is not ethical. On top of that they put their collection at great risk if they are caught.

 

[mr cyclone]

Like I said it was a package of eggs and labelled eggs

 

[JM29]

There used to be, but since they can be a challenging species to keep it seems that they might have possibly died out.

So, there are solutions to make this species travel, but it seems difficult and costly. Is it worth?
Before trying this, it's necessary to understand why the previous animals died out and not make the same mistakes. Otherwise, the next animals will also die out.

 

[manderkeeper]

I'd be surprised if there were a big demand to import them. Unless the average person at an expo saw one in full crest, I imagine them writing it off as a rather ordinary newt.

 

[michael]

We really need someone to import about 100 animals from a couple different lines.

When you do that I would be glad to purchase 10 from you. I'd even give the money up front.

 

[otolith]

Count me in too, these would be a dream for me.

 

[Coastal Groovin]

If I came up with the money to do that I would be greedy and hog them all spending my nights awake staring at them.....LOL.

 

[Chinadog]

I'd be surprised if there were a big demand to import them. Unless the average person at an expo saw one in full crest, I imagine them writing it off as a rather ordinary newt.

I think you could say that about most Triturus, Lissotriton, Ichthiosaura, etc in their terrestrial faze. One of the things I love about the hobby is seeing the fruits of my labour in the breeding season. Only animals that are fed and housed well enough throughout the year will develop the best secondary sexual characteristics that we all love so much.