Baby 'Lotl Colors?

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Hi, sorry if this has already been posted, but I'm perplexed with my baby axies. I've been trying to figure out what color they all are since they hatched, but I haven't had any luck. Naturally, I've looked for answers on the internet first before posting this. :) I've seen some say that their babies didn't change color until they were almost 6 months old, but most seem to get their color in the first couple months. I also know that babies all start out looking kinda like wild types. Well, my babies hatched Thanksgiving day (November 26, 2015). They are just over 2 months and are probably around 2 inches end to end. I've read that they should get color around this age/size. I have several babies and every single one still has the wild type appearance. I'm trying to be patient, but I'm just so excited! :D Since this is my first time raising babies, I'm not sure what to expect. I'm kind of worried that maybe I neglected them somehow and stunted their growth in some way. :( Anyway, I know there's no possible way for every baby to be wild type since the farther is a GFP golden albino and the momma is a leucistic. I can see spots and stripes on some and a few have no markings and look like a pale melanoid. Of course I don't know what the parents' genes might include, so it is possible for some to be of a different color, but not all of them like they appear to be. I can tell which one are GFP, however. I can post photos if needed, but right now all I have is older pictures (they still look the same color though). Thanks for your thoughts! :)
 

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It is possible for all the babies to be wildtypes with those parents. Of course there may be hidden recessive genes in play, but until we see photos we can't really help you.

Usually by 1 month you can see colours, they just need to be big enough to see properly. You can tell albinos from the day they hatch because of their eyes, you can usually pick out melanoids at 2-3 weeks too. Some leucicistics take a while to fade.

But it also depends on the mother. Albino mothers produce whie eggs, so most babies start very pale and them darken, whereas all the other colours start dark and lighten up.

Get osme recent photos and we'll be able to help a bit more.
 

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It certainly is possible and even likely for parents with two different color mutations to produce all wild type babies. They develop color some as they grow, but they don't change from one color to another, except in the first weeks when an unpigmented animal loses the pigment from its mothers egg or the reverse. If they all look like wildtypes at 2", they probably are.
 

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Okay, I will be posting pictures of 15 of my biggest babies. :) Sorry it took so long.
 

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Here is the last of the 15. :)
 

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Wildtypes and melanoids - some GFPs in there too.
 

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I love mamma's face - adorable!
 

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Thanks for helping me with my dilemma, guys! :) So it seems like it's just in their genes to have dark colored babies, but is there absolutely any chance of them having light colored babies? Or is this completely impossible?
 
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