If you click on the name of the prson, there is an option to PM or private message. The PMs on caudata seem to be tied into e-mail. If you get a weird respons, it is just my spam filter making sure that you are a real person. All you have to do is respond to that and it will send your original message on. (That might not happen, but just in case...) Speaking of my camping expedition, has anyone ever heard of a black phase, Olympic Torrent salamander, Rhyacotriton olympicus? That is the only thing that I can figure it was. Unfortunately, I was leaving the area and had made one last attempt at seeing some different species so had left my camera behind. The specimen was only around an inch long anyway. Any help appreciated.