Echinotriton pics

[caudataman]

Hi all,

Got a new camera and thought I'd play. Sorry about the quality, but I'm/it's a work in progress. Here are 2 forms of Echinotriton. The first are from Tokunoshima island, the last, from Okinawa. The differences are subtle, but visible.

 

[louise]

Nice pics!

 

[freves]

Thanks for sharing the pics Brian. I never realized that the two forms are that visibly different. I have one group of juveniles from the Okinawan line and another group expected that I am uncertain of (these are the descendants of zoo bred animals). I had planned on eventually attempting to interbreed them but perhaps I should rethink that.
Chip

 

[Mark B]

Nice animals Brian!

@Chip: I would certainly keep them separate as there are indeed substantial morphological differences between the different islands. I'm not sure how genetic distinct these different populations are but I would not risk hybridizing them...

 

[Donnie]

Nice pics of some incredible animals. Am I correct in thinking the differences are the orange markings or is there something else I haven't noticed? Also how are you keeping them?

 

[i_love_necturus]

Very nice! You're lucky to have such a nice group!

 

[Jiang]

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Nice pictures!

 

[fishkeeper]

In the wild...I'm guessing no gene flow would occur between these two populations?

 

[Camnp97]

wow

 

[Plomeo_Andrew]

Hi all,

Got a new camera and thought I'd play. Sorry about the quality, but I'm/it's a work in progress. Here are 2 forms of Echinotriton. The first are from Tokunoshima island, the last, from Okinawa. The differences are subtle, but visible.

They are now different species right? Okinawa population being E. andersoni, Tokunoshima population being E. raffaellii

 

[Camnp97]

They are now different species right? Okinawa population being E. andersoni, Tokunoshima population being E. raffaellii

That is correct