Question: Guppies: Breeding + Food for Axolotls

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I was hoping I could have a kind of natural ecosystem with the axy's and a group of guppies. I thought it would keep the axy's physically and mentally active if they were hunting. But the guppy breeding rate was too low, the fry are not much of a meal and adults are too fast. I have 3 axys in the tank and they never managed to catch an adult guppy. I had 2 big fry and one of those did get chomped. I still have the other big fry and one adult guppy in the tank they have survived for 3 months. I just sold the rest of the guppies in the end as the tank felt too crowded and I was worried about the water quality as the fish seem to poo non stop!
 

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My axies love guppys and minnows. I can't leave some in there more than an hour without them disappearing.
 

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I feed my axolotl guppies but i still find that my guppies reproduce faster than my axolotls can eat them. But then again i do give them easy meals of earthworms.
 

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I introduced a few guppies in my tank as a treat for my axolotl. However I think the adult ones are too fast. I removed a lot of guppy fry recently, because I noticed they really harassed my axolotl... I even think they ate his gills.
So this experiment is over... They all need to go.
 

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I just started a guppy tank however am considering just ordering them and then keeping them isolated for a few weeks to make sure there are no illnesses. If anyone is in Maryland and is interested in going in on a bulk order (500) guppies let me know and we can get some from Eastern.
 

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I realize these fish are not available everywhere, but I have found that golden skiffia (skiffia francesae) make better axolotl partners than guppies. For one thing, skiffia enjoy the same kind of water conditions: slow moving, neutral pH, on the hard side, and no warmer than 24°C. They can live quite happily at 18°C, whereas guppies would most likely get sick at this temperature.

Skiffia are livebearers, just like guppies, and they don't nip. The males may challenge each other by darting towards one another, but they don't bother other species. They are dull-looking compared to the guppies, but they school, which is really cool to watch. Mine don't seem stressed at all. Here is a photo from my instagram:



If you want to see more, look up @watercritters and if you have questions about skiffia, feel free to contact me : )
 

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Hi I am new here,and just finding my way around so I apologise if I have posted in the wrong place
 

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Re: Guppies and Monsters

What a wonderful first thread to see posted
 
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  • Josiane:
    Ok, I'll go to the pet store this afternoon to get some pH up
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  • Paige1warren:
    one second, let me do some research
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  • Josiane:
    ok, thank you so much
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  • Paige1warren:
    Okay so what I found is lower pH can bring on the symptoms ur lil guy is having. Your pH isn’t too too low, but it is lower then recommended so it’s possible having him exposed to a low pH for an extended amount of time has caused him to be really stressed out and stopped eating. Is your tank with the sand still set up and running? And if so, what is the pH in that tank? I’m thinking a filtered tank might be the best for him, but still leave him in the tub until he seems to be improving. Could you send me a picture of the sand and of your little guy? I put my girl on sand when she was still fairly small and it is normally fine if the sand is fine.
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  • Josiane:
    Poor baby, this is all my fault.
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  • Paige1warren:
    if the tank isn’t set up, that’s okay. I would recommend today going and getting an air stone to put in the tub that hes currently in. Creating more aeration in the water can increase pH. You can also add 1 teaspoon of baking soda very slowly for 5 gallons of water to help. I don’t know much about the baking soda thing and I’m not sure how completely safe it is. This might help explain it a little better How to adjust the pH in your aquarium
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  • Josiane:
    The tank is still running, I am cycling it (for 2 weeks) with guppys
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  • Josiane:
    Probably too soon, I read it take 6-8 weeks to cycle
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  • Josiane:
    How can I upload a pic?
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  • Paige1warren:
    hey! Don’t blame it on yourself. It happens. Is this your first axie? I’m a newer owner as well if so (I’ve had mine since Oct). I know how scary it can be
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  • Josiane:
    He's my first yes...
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  • Paige1warren:
    if you have the API water test kit, check all the perimeters in the tank. We can check the cycling process with the perimeters. And I’m actually not sure how to upload a pic lololol I thought it would be easier but I tried it myself and now I’m confused! It says to attack a link, I’m not sure how that works
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  • Paige1warren:
    Dont beat yourself up over this, your little guy will be ok 😊
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  • Josiane:
    I will do that for sure this afternoon! I really hope he pulls through :( He's so freakin cute
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  • Josiane:
    Thanks for your help :)
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  • Paige1warren:
    You’re so welcome! Keep a close eye on him and try to offer food a couple times a day. Maybe try some pellets too for a different smell, might get him interested. Keep me updated!
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  • Josiane:
    Will do, thanks!
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  • Josiane:
    @Paige1warren, turns out my pH was spot on, the test strips I had used were no good. I bought an API kit and the levels are all fine. So not the issue :( I just posted in the forum
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  • Paige1warren:
    Hey @Josiane ! I just responded to your post. Your little guy actually looks fairly decent for his size despite not eating well. I think it is stress from the environment
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  • Paige1warren:
    Also I forgot to add to my response on ur thread, keep trying to feed him bloodworms and see if he will start to take them. If you get a turkey vaster you can suck up dethawed bloodworms and dangle them right infront of his nose, might get his interest.
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  • Josiane:
    I rotate between blood worms and brine shrimp. He's in my bedroom and will stay there for a while, I closed the light and just left a salt lamp on. I will bring him a hiding place right away! Isn't he the cutest thing! 😂
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  • Josiane:
    Thanks for the reassurance!!
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane An axolotl of your's size should be on a diet of chopped earthworms or live blackworms (if they're under 3"). Bloodworms and brine shrimp are not a sufficient diet.
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane Based on the photo, I believe there is a chance your axolotl may have become impacted from ingesting sand. Axolotls under 5" should not be kept on substrate for this reason.
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need to test your tap water's parameters using a liquid test kit (not strips! Those are inaccurate). The slime coat coming off may also be due to water quality or the water conditioner.
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    madcaplaughs: @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need... +1
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