HELP! THERE IS SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH MY AXIE>>>I SEE BONE!!!

i have a ph test kit cause the man at the pet store told me my water was really clean.

Should i get a nitrate and ammonia kit too?

just to be safe?
 
Get the guy at the petshop to test your water and get the exact no.s for each and post it here.

Don't accept you have really clean water. That doesn't help if you are trying to work out whether your tank is cycled or cycling. And only way you can tell is by the tests.

Ideally you shud have one for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate as well as the ph.
 
Also, it may be an idea to find out how hard your water is (gh/kh) cause having really soft water can bring the pH down.
 
Having really soft water doesn't bring the pH down. Instead the softness indicates that there is very little in the way of buffering capacity (such as those provided by carbonates) to keep the pH more stable.

Nitrates are a very stable ion that is difficult to remove through the addition of water conditioners.

If you are adding a pH modifier that frequently then this modifier probably lacks sufficient buffering capacity to keep the pH stable.

In short cycling is the conversion through the actions of bacteria using the ammonia as a food source resulting in nitrite. A second species of bacteria then feeds on the nitrate converting it to nitrate. Ammonia at a neutral or basic pH is toxic to aquatic animals while nitrite is toxic to aquatic animals. Nitrate is relatively non-toxic to aquatic animals which is why it is important for the tank to be cycled.

Ed
 
Lauren, it is easy once you get the hang of it.

For starters, adding those pH up and down solutions is bad for your animals. Having a less-than-ideal pH is better than wild swings in pH.

Second, there's no need to change 100% of the water at any time.

What size tank do you have?

I'll just kind of add on to what Ed has said. Your axolotl excretes ammonia. You need a special bacteria in your tank that will convert ammonia to nitrites. Nitrites are still poisonous, so you need a second kind of bacteria to convert nitrites to nitrates.

You can't get these bacteria from a bottle (unless you get refrigerated bio-spira, but most stores do not carry this). You need to grow the bacteria over time. It usually takes between 1 and 3 months.

The bacteria will live on the solid surfaces in the tank. They'll grow in the substrate (the sand/rocks that you use as a floor covering), they'll grow especially in the filter, and on any decorations.

The easiest way to cycle your aquarium would be to take the axolotls out and put them in a temporary holding bin (I'm a BIG fan of the plastic storage tubs by rubbermaid!). Keep the bin as simple as possible. Just a few decorations, places to hide, no filter. You'll need to change the water in this bin nearly daily.

As for the permenant tank: Keep the filter running. Get test kits for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. Add axolotl poo that you remove from the holding bin as a food for your bacteria. Test the water frequently. You should see ammonia levels start to rise. Then as the ammonia levels drop, your nitrite levels should rise. Then both ammonia and nitrite levels will drop and nitrates go up. Once you have a 0ppm reading for ammonia and nitrite, do a 30% water change to reduce the levels of nitrates, and you've got a cycled tank. Then you need to change about 10% of the water once a week to keep it maintained. I recommend weekly testing midway between water changes, so you know what is 'normal' for your tank.
 
does the cold temp in the fridge make axies swim funny? cuz he is swimming really weird..he swims and then wobbles back and forth..tell me hes not dying
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(Message edited by axie_lover16 on May 15, 2006)
 
and how long do you think it will take for him to heal? a week? two weeks? all month?
 
it doesnt seem to be getting better...I think he might be getting worse cause of his wobbly swimming, but i have no idea. any ideas on what i should do?
 
The cold water will not be making him swim wobbly. How high is the water in his container? Lower it so his feet touch the bottom, but still covers his top fin. This might stop him wobbling, so he just sort of crawls round the container and should destress him.

Cold water slows their metabolism down so that it can give it a chance to heal.

Healing could takes days or even weeks. Keep an eye on him and keep us updated and continue with the 100% daily waterchanges (and saltbaths, if you are giving those too).
 
thats about how high it is..maybe a tad higher. just wanted to know how long it would take cause my mom is mad that my animals are taking over "her" fridge lol
 
My mother used to freak when she came over to visit and would open the icecream container in the fridge thinking it was some left over goodies to eat! LOL
 
well a tiny bit of good news...he ate a small peice of food last night. Do they eat less when they are in the fridge?
 
something is bothering me...his wound doesnt seem to be healing...I mean i dont expect it to be healed overnight but it looks pretty much the same as it did a week ago..
 
good news that he ate a little bit, but yes their metabolism does slow down so they can heal, so they may eat less, depending on your fridge temp.

Have u been doing salt baths, it may take longer than just a week. One of ours was losing its toes, took couple weeks to heal with daily salt baths, and several weeks thereafter to regenerate.
 
no, as of now im not doing saltbaths....do you think i should? I just think he has been very stressed lately and i dont wanna add to it.
 
How are his gills, i know you mentioned those, in early part of thread? And does the wound look like its getting any worse? If it does start to worsen then maybe start the saltbaths back.
 
his gills look a very tiny bit better....very stubby still though...no his wound isnt getting worse, but its not getting better either which is weird
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Well, like most injuries it won't heal overnight or within the week. If it isn't getting any worse, you don't have to give the saltbaths, just see how he goes. On the other hand a daily saltbath, just once a day for 10mins can be beneficial, can get rid of any nasty infections that may be there. You cud do the saltbath when u do the waterchange, that might be less stressful and he just gets transferred straight into his fresh dechlorinated water after the bath. (I used to make up the saltbath each day and keep in the fridge so its same temp. Half my fridge was taken up by axie containers and dechlorinated water. As for the gills, they will regenerate. There is more oxygen in the colder water so doesn't need as much gill growth as yet.
 
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