How about the U.S Shanjing?

[david]

Compared to the Kweichows, shanjing haven't been as fortunate so far. My first lot of 12 has gone down to 4. But I got a second lot of 24 from a different source and just lost 1 so far and the rest seem to be doing well. They were better looking animals to begin with then the first batch. They seem to be stable. I'll be keeping about 10 for my own colony and the others will be available to make up for other collectors losses and to improve chances of breeding. How are everybody elses shanjing doing so far?

(Message edited by dln on July 22, 2004)

 

[ira]

i lost all my males, but my 4 females are doing excellent.

if you are going to make these available once they become stable, i would be very interested in 1 or 2 males. please feel free to get in touch with me at ira_bradford@yahoo.com

 

[edward]

When acclimating shanjing, I keep them with acess to a totally dry area but a good relative humidity. In my limited experience, new imports will often sit in the dryest spots when given the opportunity and a good relative humidity.

Ed

 

[michael]

I lost 1 out of 6 shanjing. I found it dead in a shallow water dish. My shanjing came in looking fatter than the kweichioensis,

 

[chris]

I don't have any of these imported shanjing, but how do you acheive high humidity without wetting the substrate?
Chris

 

[david]

In the Chicago area, we've been running 60 to 70 percent humidity every day lately. Humidity's not a problem here. I guess it depends on location

 

[paris]

well here it is usually 10-15% this time of year -but we are having some unusually wet weather here. still i am thinking the way to do that is having a cage that has a moisture resistant top (like on screen ones putting plastic wrap over it) -i have mine in an old sweater box that has a few holes drilled in the top-they are on damp paper towel and have some of the wandering jew i use in most my tanks as a comfort cover. if the bottom of the container has damp towels or moist substrate then layers upon layers of bark sections would create a good gradient-or even some leaf litter on the bottom.

 

[edward]

I usually have a damp substrate and then some form of item stacked on the floor that is totally dry, usually a couple of laters of bark. This way the animal can choose the moisture level it prefers. Most of the imported shanjing I've worked with if given a choice will sit on a very dry piece of bark as opposed to a moist substrate.

Ed

 

[david]

Hi Ed, A couple of quick questions. What water depth do you use for breeding? Can they get in and out of the water O.K. or do they need a pretty easy ramp to get out? Do they prefer to lay eggs on plants or rock and if plants, what kinds do they seem to like? Here's a pic of one of the gravid females. Answer these three questions successfully and you could win one of these for yourself if you've changed your mind about not having the space right now.

(Message edited by dln on July 24, 2004)

(Message edited by dln on July 24, 2004)

 

[edward]

Hi Dave,
When I bred them at work (which has been on hold as all of ours are related), I kept them in trios in 20 longs with a water end that was about 1.5 (3.8 cm) inches deep (on average) with a shallow stream that ran down into the tank. I heavily planted the water section and it was shallow enough the adults would be barely submerged but could lift their head clear of the water.
I was just looking for the pictures but my wife has been organizing the pictures so I have no clue where they are currently stashed (she's an amateur photographer so we have lots of pictures).
I did not see actual courtship or oviposition but the eggs were scattered througout the water area as well on the damp land sections. I did give them an easy access into and out of the water as I was concerned with drowning.
I have another 20 days before any quarantive space will open up and I can get any more amphibians.
If my wife isn't too tired tonight (they just got a new troup of gorillas at work and she's taking care of them and getting them acclimated so she's usually pretty beat when she gets home) I'll see if she remembers where she stashed the pictures.

Ed

 

[sergé]

The animal has a open wound on it's head, the first sign of (big) problems. Take care of it and keep them dry instead of moist!

 

[greg]

Ed,

is that the Gorilla troupe from Columbus? did they walk all the way there?

I saw them on the news. It looked like they were ready to leave Columbus. Maybe the borrowed Hanna's car?

 

[david]

I'll keep an eye on it Serge. Thanks

(Message edited by dln on July 26, 2004)

 

[michael]

lost 3 out of 6. the recent Kweiches and the verrocusos I got around Christmas are still doing fine. It sounds bad when I say I lost half of the shanjing. It doesn't sound to bad when I say I lost 3 out of 18 Tylototritons I got this year.

 

[edward]

Hi Greg,
The new troupe just came in from St. Loius. Apparently a number of animals are being moved around to fit the SSP plan. They were brought in on a AC truck in some impressively heavy crates.

Ed