Marmoratus Breeding Project

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Look at this, the leaves look suspiciously folded.

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That is what I am hoping! It is hard to find healthy captive bred animals her in Canada so I usually just try to get 2-3 animals (with a m and f) and try to grow the colony from there. I noticed that as soon as their rear legs start to develop it is a free for all. Then a couple suspiciously grow 5x faster lol
 

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Look at this, the leaves look suspiciously folded.

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I just built this tank and used some plants from my crested tank that were covered in duds. I wish it was done at the hands (legs) of my marms. I'm not sure if it's too late now/ definitely not happening but I am getting that feeling.

What is the latest anyone has gotten triturus eggs? (If anyone even sees this lol)
 

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A few pics of the bigger ones. They seem to grow considerably slower than the carnifex. Only have about 8-10 of these, hopefully a couple will make it. These ones should be in the clear / out of their more delicate stage but I am worried about the smaller ones still.
 

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I have about 8 larvae remaining, one of them seems to have helped itself to some of its siblings. As such it's much bigger and has started to develop color.
 

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The color seems to be coming in quick on the biggest 2 or 3, the rest still have a week or two it seems.
 

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Finally got some eggs! A lot of them were infertile, it is my females' first time laying/ she is only 1 year old so that may have been why. It is also pretty late in the season from what I understand. This is my first time raising larvae from breeding so I am not sure what the standard time of year is yet.

I gave some of the eggs to the guy I had traded my female with/ who gave me some eggs a few months ago. I have about 12-15 larvae from them. It is nice to have found someone local I was able to trade with, it is very difficult finding newt species in Canada aside from firebellies and Spanish ribbed.

I noticed some swimming in the tank after I had given up looking, which was kind of similar to what happened with the carnifex. I noticed the carnifex seem to eat A LOT more than the marms and as such have grown much larger and faster. I am hopeful next year she will produce a full clutch / that more of them will be viable.

I hoping most of them will morph, I started with a group of 3 females, now have 2 female, 1 male and 1 that is too young to tell. Hoping to add some of these to the group for next year if all goes well.

The original ones I had gotten from the person I traded with are starting to morph and fill in their color. It has been exciting to watch them develop their signature orange and green.
 

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Congrats on the eggs at last!
It's very common to loose up to 50% of marm clutches, it's a genetic fault that most if not all of of the Triturus species have.
 

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I think it was more than that. The first maybe 30-40 eggs were duds. She is still young/is about a year old though so I am glad she popped as it was. I am also fortunate to have had a few to 'practise' on so for next year hopefully when the heard comes I will be prepared. They seem a lot more delicate/slow growing than the carnifex, but once they get going they seem to do well!
 

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A few have left the water but have been returning to it to eat. They have the option of taking to land, but they seem to prefer the water, for now at least. I am hoping to raise them aquatic as I had raise doubts my previous marms terrestrially. I still give them the choice in the end, I just try to encourage a life at sea.
 

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Been a few months since the last update. All the little ones have left the water. It was my first year so I wasn’t getting as many as I had hoped, but still ended up with a good amount to fill out the colony (started with a male and two female).

The babies are growing fast and eating well! They like to explore for crickets and other things I throw in for them like wax worm or earth worms chunks.

Starting to get ready for round 2 in a few months!
 

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Getting ready for round two, I guess I will just continue here since I enjoy reading those types of threads the most personally(where you can see the development over years with a few clicks!)

From last season’s babies I had 10 survivors. I decided to keep them because they are extremely hard to find here, especially in good health. I like to have a group of 10-12 animals to allow room for any accidents or casualties, so I was a little worried starting off with only 3. I unfortunately lost the male/father to a fungal infection about a month ago so I am a little extra paranoid perhaps with the import ban currently in effect here. I was about to get a last minute male from a friend who I had traded with last year, so I am hoping to be able to raise a few more to newthood this year if courting is successful, we shall see!

The babies have an ever growing appetite which has helped them fill in quite a bit. Their home is seeded with pinheads, springtails, dwarf white isopods and they also get some earth and waxwork chunks from time to time. Marms are one of the few species that I would say are as easy to raise terrestrially as aquatic (possibly more so depending who you ask).
 

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This has been a great thread to go through, loved to see the enclosures and the new offspring :D

Best wishes!
 
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    The tank is still running, I am cycling it (for 2 weeks) with guppys
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    Probably too soon, I read it take 6-8 weeks to cycle
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    How can I upload a pic?
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    hey! Don’t blame it on yourself. It happens. Is this your first axie? I’m a newer owner as well if so (I’ve had mine since Oct). I know how scary it can be
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    He's my first yes...
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    if you have the API water test kit, check all the perimeters in the tank. We can check the cycling process with the perimeters. And I’m actually not sure how to upload a pic lololol I thought it would be easier but I tried it myself and now I’m confused! It says to attack a link, I’m not sure how that works
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    Dont beat yourself up over this, your little guy will be ok 😊
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    I will do that for sure this afternoon! I really hope he pulls through :( He's so freakin cute
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    Thanks for your help :)
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    You’re so welcome! Keep a close eye on him and try to offer food a couple times a day. Maybe try some pellets too for a different smell, might get him interested. Keep me updated!
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    @Paige1warren, turns out my pH was spot on, the test strips I had used were no good. I bought an API kit and the levels are all fine. So not the issue :( I just posted in the forum
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    Hey @Josiane ! I just responded to your post. Your little guy actually looks fairly decent for his size despite not eating well. I think it is stress from the environment
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    Also I forgot to add to my response on ur thread, keep trying to feed him bloodworms and see if he will start to take them. If you get a turkey vaster you can suck up dethawed bloodworms and dangle them right infront of his nose, might get his interest.
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    I rotate between blood worms and brine shrimp. He's in my bedroom and will stay there for a while, I closed the light and just left a salt lamp on. I will bring him a hiding place right away! Isn't he the cutest thing! 😂
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    Thanks for the reassurance!!
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane An axolotl of your's size should be on a diet of chopped earthworms or live blackworms (if they're under 3"). Bloodworms and brine shrimp are not a sufficient diet.
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    @Josiane Based on the photo, I believe there is a chance your axolotl may have become impacted from ingesting sand. Axolotls under 5" should not be kept on substrate for this reason.
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    @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need to test your tap water's parameters using a liquid test kit (not strips! Those are inaccurate). The slime coat coming off may also be due to water quality or the water conditioner.
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    Hey guys! Could anyone tell me like the span earth worms are good for once cut? I’m wondering if I can prepare worms for days in advance or no? I normally will cut the worm the day I feed it to my axie, but I really hate the cutting and was just wondering if I can do a few at a time so I have them already prepared. Do they lose nutritional value once cut?
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    Im not sure to b honest. Id think once dead they aren't good anymore. Also I think0
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    I'd avoid feeding dead earthworms.
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    Kk thank you I’ll just suck it up with cutting the worms :D
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    My Axolotl just laid eggs!!! I have had Axies for years, but this is the first time I got eggs. I know that I can not handle them all because I was not prepared. Is there anyone who would like to buy some? Mother is Golden, Father is Albino
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    My Axolotl just laid eggs!!! I have had Axies for years, but this is the first time I got eggs. I know that I can not handle them all because I was not prepared. Is there anyone who would like to buy some? Mother is Golden, Father is Albino
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