My 2 unexpected C.Cyanurus

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Yesterday i was at a reptiles show and i found 2 Cynops Cyanurus from a Czechoslovakian seller.
They were sold as a pair but im pretty sure they are both females
however , they are adults (10cm and 11cm) and most important healthy.
Unfortunately for me will be very difficult if not impossible find a Male.
They sure are stunning creatures with a beautiful personality.
now some pics.

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the other one (a little bigger )
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If you post side on views we can sex them for you. The second animal looks like a male that's out of breeding condition.
 
AW: My 2 unexpected C.Cyanurus

Hi End,
like John already said, side and belly shots would be helpful for sexing. There are several reproductive groups of different "kinds" of Cynops cyanurus in captivity in Europe. Assignment of these groups to subspecies is not easy if not impossible. Yours seem to be of the "irredescent"- respectively "Quian Main"- type. Check out Paul B's pictures on: Salamanderseiten. So if it turns out you really have two females it wont be impossible to find a nice cb male to complete your group. ;)
 
thanks
i will try to make pics for the sex identification,
thank you for the link Ralf, i think you are right
my animals are very close to the Quian Main type
 
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