New Cynops pyrrhogaster babies.

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I've been looking for some more pyrrhos for a while now so was happy to pick these up yesterday. They were advertised as Sasayama, but I'm not so sure. Out of well over 150 Sasayama babies I've bred and raised to this size I can only recall one that didn't have a belly coloured stripe down its back, but no matter, there was no locality data with them so its all conjecture anyway I guess!
They look like a two males and a female and look well fed and alert so I'm pleased with them so far. I'm looking forward to seeing them grow and will post some better pics once they've settled in a bit.
 

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Looking good ! Here’s my group of 5 that were sold to me as sasayama. I’ve never seen them eat but they obviously are lmao. Don’t know what would be a good point to transition them to water but I’m just glad they’re eating well.
 

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Yes, they look well fed and healthy! Those look exactly like I would expect for Sasayama babies, the orange stripe is quite distinctive I think.
I used to move them to a weedy aquatic setup as soon as they looked like miniature adults, usually around 6-8 months after morphing for the ones I had, although I guess it depends on feeding and temps. If they are moved too soon they will just refuse to submerge and constantly climb the sides to escape. They will still take some convincing, even when they are big enough, not like the ensicauda popei have, they spend a day on the turtle dock, then it's back into the 18" deep water to live with their parents!
 

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A few recent snaps. They are doing very well and growing quite quickly, I don't see much of them, but they must be eating well. :)
 

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You've done really well with these guys. Thank you for sharing the (very big!) pics.
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Thanks John! Very big pics? They look normal on my phone, are they showing up giant?
 

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Thanks John! Very big pics? They look normal on my phone, are they showing up giant?
Oh they're fine, I was just kidding.
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Here are a few quick shots of my group. Still don't know when I’d want to take them into water but ?*♂
 

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From the pics I'd say leave them on land for now dude, they still look too small for the water to me and they're obviously doing very well where they are. as I said before, wait till they look like miniature adults, when their parotoid glands are fully formed and the ridges down their backs are obvious. The longer they stay on land, the more chance you'll get the whole group to go aquatic all at the same time.
They look great though, their belly colour is developing nicely as well. :)
 

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Here are a few quick shots of my group. Still don't know when I’d want to take them into water but ?*♂
One thing you could start doing now is to start making an area of your enclosure more bog like. Not sure how your enclosure is set up but when mine get this size I’ll make half of the tank more moist and “swampy” then the rest. And gradually over time the whole enclosure will be more bog like. This just means everything is wet, not submerged. Java moss is perfect when it comes to this. And then I started to slightly increase the amount of water. By this time they are still land bound but have no problem swimming underwater to hide or whatnot. Eventually you will start to notice they are hiding more and more under damp moss. Now this usually takes 6 months to a year. And even still the water level is maybe an inch or two. So patience is key. But each newt is different. I had one individual that morphed into the size of what you have now and probably stayed on land for maybe a month or two before becoming a fully aquatic adult. Wish they could all do that. But one of her “siblings” just became fully aquatic a few months ago. Both hatched spring of 2017 so there ya go.
 

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