Newts with Axolotls good or bad idea?

[dcoop0361]

I was wondering if i could put newts with some axolotls in the same tank , i was going to put a land portion in the tank and the rest deep water. i was also goin to put a coolin system in the deep water end, and a small heat lamp for the land portion. is this a good idea?

 

[Shizeric]

NO! It's a bad idea.

 

[fishcakey]

Probably not. Even axolotls sometimes nip at each other. The heating and cooling system you have going on seems slightly complicated, have you tested it out fully yet? You have to make sure you can accomodate both temperatures and such. It could be possible with some sort of tank divider, but in that case you should probably just get separate aquariums.

 

[dcoop0361]

Probably not. Even axolotls sometimes nip at each other. The heating and cooling system you have going on seems slightly complicated, have you tested it out fully yet? You have to make sure you can accomodate both temperatures and such. It could be possible with some sort of tank divider, but in that case you should probably just get separate aquariums.

I didnt actually do it yet, I was just wondering if it would work out ..but thanks. I guess I should just forget about the newts and stick with the axies.

 

[Azhael]

A resounding no. Mixing species is generally a bad idea, even if they are non-agressive and have similar sizes and requirements. Axolotls are not only way larger than your average newt, but they are also rather agressive eaters.
For the record, no species of newt requires any heat source, and specially not lamps. They are cold loving creatures with permeable skins. A newt under a heat lamp is a dead newt.

 

[dcoop0361]

A resounding no. Mixing species is generally a bad idea, even if they are non-agressive and have similar sizes and requirements. Axolotls are not only way larger than your average newt, but they are also rather agressive eaters.
For the record, no species of newt requires any heat source, and specially not lamps. They are cold loving creatures with permeable skins. A newt under a heat lamp is a dead newt.

ok i just got them mixed up with another species..cuz i read they enjoy humid areas. just a mistake by me

 

[cowtipper]

I have 4 axolotls and 2 newts in the same tank for two years with out any problems.

 

[memojo1979]

I have 4 axolotls and 2 newts in the same tank for two years with out any problems.

Just because you've had no problems so far, it doesn't mean that it's not risky + won't happen in the future! And, it doesn't mean that the 2 different species aren't stressing each other out
However, this is a forum + when someone asks a question, it's good for them to see both sides. I personally wouldn't take the risk though
Can we see photos of your set up + animals please? It'd be interesting to see how you've got your tank set up!

 

[dcoop0361]

I have 4 axolotls and 2 newts in the same tank for two years with out any problems.

really cool i would love 2 see your tank set up can i ask for you to post some pics plz

 

[cowtipper]

ok will do, and should have them posted in the next day or so

 

[cowtipper]

ah.. have a question... Would like to find out why I was given a neg rep for my comment. I am not sure I want to spend the time posting informatoin if I am just going to be give neg reps. What gives.

 

[Aaran]

You got given bad rep because you basicly put yeah its fine, technically its not... you may have had some luck with mixing the species, but before going yes its fine show us your animals and also show of other people having sucess? 99.9999% of the time you will find certain species just wont mix (granted there will be flukey occasions like yours(yet to be proven),

some newts produce toxins - dont you think that would hurt an axolotl?

Im not saying this as a bad thing, but your comment could have said,

i personally have been able to mix these, but it might be fluke heres a pic, dont downrate me just showing that i have done it.

Instead of going yeah they can mix, so ... you gave bad advice as far as anyone is concernd here.

sorry for any grammar mistakes but im kinda tierd, and dont take it as an assault.

Peace.

 

[cowtipper]

understand.. I will post pics when I get home tonight and then will go back into lurking mode on this site

 

[SludgeMunkey]

Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad idea.

Have a go at the "Disasters" Articles on Caudata Culture:

Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters

Caudata Culture Articles - Captive Care Catastrophes

 

[dcoop0361]

Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad idea.

Have a go at the "Disasters" Articles on Caudata Culture:

Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters

Caudata Culture Articles - Captive Care Catastrophes

none of these links related 2 my possible situation dont take as a insult

 

[Jennewt]

none of these links related 2 my possible situation dont take as a insult

You haven't specified what species of newt you are interested in keeping with the axie, so it's hard to say which animal is a hazard to the other. For specific examples involving a newt and an axie, check out Incidents #51 and #70:
Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters
Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters
I would also point out that many of the other incidents on that page are relevant; any time you house two amphibians (carnivores) together, there is some degree of risk. The risk between two different species is usually higher than the risk if they are the same species.

If you aren't concerned about longevity, go ahead and put them together. Write back in a few years and let us know what happened.

 

[cowtipper]

Photos per request and info

4 ax and 2 newts in a 55 gal long. All 6 are just over 2 years of age, and have been in same take for just under two years. So far I have had 3 set of eggs, 2 sets from the ax and one set from the newts.

Not sure what other information I can provide.

 

[dcoop0361]

thanxs for the pics man is that a fully aquatic tank?

 

[dcoop0361]

You haven't specified what species of newt you are interested in keeping with the axie, so it's hard to say which animal is a hazard to the other. For specific examples involving a newt and an axie, check out Incidents #51 and #70:
Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters
Caudata Culture Articles - Species Mixing Disasters
I would also point out that many of the other incidents on that page are relevant; any time you house two amphibians (carnivores) together, there is some degree of risk. The risk between two different species is usually higher than the risk if they are the same species.

If you aren't concerned about longevity, go ahead and put them together. Write back in a few years and let us know what happened.

so i guess u should look at cowtippers reply then

 

[Kaysie]

There are multiple instances on that page that mention Pleurodeles, and even more that mention axolotls. Just because there's not one specific instance of P. waltl with axolotls doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Frankly, I'm downright shocked that your axolotls haven't eaten the P. waltl yet.

We can't convince everyone this is a BAD idea. The best we can do is provide all the evidence and experience we can that says you shouldn't do this. In the end, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you do mix species, and they are maimed or killed, don't come back and be like "Well this one guy said it was ok!".