Ph level needs to drop..how?

You might want to try a certain mainstream internet auction website.....because here in the UK there are many options for delivered organic worms from recognised suppliers.
 
Fishing/bait shops are another good source for wormies! U'd be best off with worms otherwise you will have to feed a large variety of gutfed bugs as well as bloodworm to get the nutrients an axie needs! Most of what an axie needs is in worms, however I gutfeed crickets with loadsa healthy stuff and calcium/vitD3 dust as a supplement to keep them healthy! Seriously without worms you will have to feed such a variety of bugs to get all the nutrients it could start getting pretty expensive, also once my axie got big he just wasnt intrested in bloodworm, too small to even bother with!

I'd just bite the bullet and use worms, its just what axies eat and im sure you want the best for your little guy!
 
Ken Worthington said:
(In addition, @ skunk, 8.6 pH is'nt fine) :confused:
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Yeh! It's high I know, mine is around 8.4, fluctuating to 8.6 now and again, and I don't have any problems. This is mainly because they are bred and grown in the same area, where the ph is roughly the same. I think the main thing with avoiding pH shock/burn is to do the proper acclimatising, with the drip valve method into a bucket. It's all going well :)

But, due to the naturally high ph, I'm not going to be breeding guppies or siamese fighters (my original plan), and going down the African Rift Lake Cichlids route :D

Seeing as it seems to be the done thing, I may go down the earthworm route, perhaps. I have a bearded dragon who I feed gutloaded and vitamin/calcium/D3 dusted locusts to, so maybe it wont be so bad :p

Is earthworms really classed as the staple? I never saw anything about that when I was researching them! Going to have a look into the organic delivered ones.
 
Earthworms are definitely the recommended staple. Do a search anywhere out here and you will see.

I think several UK members use Wormsdirect as their online source. You could also look into raising your own, that's what I do - cost effective and pretty easy.
 
I'm guessing you cant use dried earthworms :p That's all I can find on "flea-bay"
 
Dried earthworms can't be very tasty...You're welcome to find that out for yourself...:p Do a search for live worms and see what you come up with or google live earthworms if you can't find wormsdirect.
 
so my lil axie isnt very big and has been eating bloodworms and some small feeder guppies here and there. is there certin size i can get in earthworms from a bait shop or do i have to wait for him to get bigger to eat earthworms..the prey is longer than the preditor is what im really trying to say ;p cut the earthworms in half right? though it sounds like a mess in the tank
 
dragonlady said:
I think several UK members use Wormsdirect as their online source. You could also look into raising your own, that's what I do - cost effective and pretty easy.
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Do do do do do make sure you do some research in how to look after worms. There isn't many more unpleasant smells than the fragrance of putrefied worm soup wafting into your nostrils when you open the lid of your wormery and realise that your lovely big 2.5KG of worms from Worms Direct has aneorobised (sp?) underneath the big pile of cabbage leaves you chucked in there the other day thinking it would be lovely food for them, believe me you don't want that, its grim.
 
Bichers and Axies? Wow!

Thats a no no but you seem to have learned that.

I got both ( in separate tanks ) and once the lights go out that Bicher is a monster! He rails anything moving and swallows it whole like nothing! Not only could they do physical harm but they are predators and predators aside from gold fish make the most waste.

Not to mention that depending on the size of the Bicher and the size of the Axie the Axolotl might think its a worm. Bad cause Bicher have spines!
 
First of all, I love the name Trogdor for an Axie. Why didn't I think of naming my little guys after the Burninator!?

Also, I was wondering what changes have been made to the enclosure, so far, since you haven't specified. Have you added driftwood, and/or re-homed the birchir? What temp is it in the tank?

If the earthworms keep proving difficult for you for one reason or another, it may be time to search online for something called "axolotl pellets" or "salmon pellets." They are soft, nutritionally balanced pellets that can be a staple in lieu of earthworms. You can buy them in different sizes to match your axolotl's growth.

Spend some time poking around Axolotls: The Fascinating Mexican Axolotl and the Tiger Salamander, which will give you great care and maintenance tips for Trogdor.

I also wanted to include a link to this site: The Senegal Bichir, Polypterus senegalus Profile, with care, maintenance requirements and breeding information for your tropical fish which includes the birchir's temp needs and full size capacity, so that you can compare it to the tank requirements you find on the axolotl website.
 
Thank you! i did do some poking around on both sites and almost wanted to cringe that I had my Dino Bicher with Trogdor, granted that Dino (the bicher's name) is just barely over two inches, but still scary to think of what could have been.
>Dino has been relocated into my brother's room who put it in display in the living room with black gravel and a skull for a "holloween affect" haha. its a small tank now but he is not that big yet
> I havent done anything much but change the water as far as the Ph level goes, 7.8 is normal for an axie is what iv been getting. i dont want to stress him out with constant changing Ph levels with any driftwood or Ph Down kits like others said it would.
> the water therm. usually reads mid 60's when i change part of the water but gets down to high 50's after that..yes my room is that cold!
> I talked to the petstore where my axie came from, to find that he came from a breeder right outside town, and no they dont know what she feeds any of them. they wont tell me any contact info on her either ;/ i just only know that she breeds a huge variety of colors. though i do like the axie pellet idea and shall turn to see how that works with Trogdor ;p
 
Hi, 7.8 pH is absolutely fine, and mid 60's down to 50's F is absolutely fine (the colder they get, the more their metabolism slows, so become a little less active, and a little less hungry).

Keep offering both small organic earthworms and chopped earthworms (cut from the 'tail-end') because I like to think he'll adapt to them soon enough.....:happy:......mind you, we all have strange paletes, lol :D
Cut earthworms don't make a mess, especially if you're used to dealing with the mess with frozen blood-worms. I use a very sharp 'Stanley' blade to cut earthworms, thinking that the sharper the blade the quick its over and hopefully less stress to the worm, (and also less chemical defence excreted by the stressed worm?)

In addition, let us know how you get on with the pellets

All the best :happy:
 
brillB07 said:
Thank you! i did do some poking around on both sites and almost wanted to cringe that I had my Dino Bicher with Trogdor, granted that Dino (the bicher's name) is just barely over two inches, but still scary to think of what could have been.
>Dino has been relocated into my brother's room who put it in display in the living room with black gravel and a skull for a "holloween affect" haha. its a small tank now but he is not that big yet
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Glad to hear things are working out well. I thought I'd dig up some links that will help you get the birchir all set up, since you don't want to re-home him yet and he will eventually reach 20 inches. There's a forum that's specifically for keepers of the larger fish species, at Monster Fish Keepers, and that might help you get advice from others who keep that species. There are also a lot of generalist forums out there that have a lot of info on general set-up and maintenance, etc., the kinds of questions that come up over time, and so I thought I would point you toward Tropical Fish, Aquarium Fish, Care for Saltwater and Freshwater Fish, Aquarium Setup to start you off.

Sorry if I'm burdening you with resources. :eek: I like to read up on animals and their care... a lot... so I thought I'd pass along a few of the sites that I thought might help if you were interested in doing the same. ;)
 
oh this is no resource burden at all! i have a 12 paged research paper due on reptailia, amphibia, to which i chose to do axolotls haha and some of the people in that class were nosing off myy computer asking "whoa what is that!?" :wacko: so anything on the genus to peer review websites, please send me any good links!

also i checked out the pet stores around town and none sell axie pellets but they said that newt ones r very similar and they r cheaper than they r online..im still feeding the last of blood/earth worms to mine for the moment and wondered on the newt pellets if they would be just as fine..?

also wondered if they just said that newt pellets are similar to axie ones cause the species r close or do they really know the ingredints r similar...?!?
 
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