Pyrrhogaster social group

[Joost]

For just a very common specie as C. pyrrhogaster there are very many different forms. Therefore I made a social group for the pyrrhogaster keepers. Please join and let know what kind you've got.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/groups/cynops-pyrrhogaster-forms-races.html

 

[evut]

Hi Joost!
I've joined. My newts are so far unidentified as form.
Eva

http://www.caudata.org/forum/members/evut-albums-cynops-pyrrhogaster.html

 

[PereJosa]

and I stay at this group Good idea Joost.

I have;
C.P.Sasayama 2.2.0.
C.P. Kanto 2.2.30 (larvae ,eggs) +,

Bye

 

[Azhael]

Well, since i absolutely love this species...why not? xD

I only keep:
-4.2.X Cynops pyrrhogaster sasayamae (where the "x" means undetermined number of larvae and eggs xD)

I really hope to explore with other subspecies in the future....they are all fascinating.

 

[evut]

Did all of you get your newts as a specified form/race? Or work it out yourselves?

 

[Joost]

I try to collect animals with locality data as much as possible. Besides that I rather speak about a location (for example a Prefecture) than the so called races. Offcourse a lot of types look very much the same, but in a Prefecture it can be very different also.

 

[Joost]

Here the forms I keep:

C. pyrrhogaster pyrrhogaster (unknown collecting locality): part of the so called 'Hiroshima race'

C. pyrrhogaster (Kanagawa prefecture): part of the so called (South) 'Kanto' race

C. pyrrhogaster (Mie prefecture): part of the so called 'Intermediate' race

C. pyrrhogaster (Kagawa prefecture): part of the so called 'Hiroshima race

C. prrhogaster sasayamae (unknown collecting locality)

 

[evut]

Joost, it would be great to see photos of these different forms for comparison.

 

[Joost]

Well, a lot of forms do look a like, so if the locality data isn't known, it's hard to say. Japan has 47 prefectures, and just 2 or 3 prefectures have no pyrrhogasters. Determine by photo's isn't reliable for a lot of forms. But adding some pics is no problem at all.

 

[Joost]

1 pyrrhogaster (Kagawa)
2 pyrrhogaster (Kagawa) belly
3 pyrrhogaster (Hiroshima race)
4 pyrrhogaster (Hiroshima race) belly

 

[Joost]

1 pyrrhogaster (Mie)
2 pyrrhogaster (Kanto)
3 sasayamae

 

[Joost]

Here you can see the differences between 2 so called 'Hiroshima races'. The brownish animal is from Kagawa prefecture.

 

[Yahilles]

Oh, i'm amazed how similar to orientalis they can be!

 

[PereJosa]

Photos of my JFBN

Kanto;

Sasayama;

 

[Joost]

Beautiful pics, I would love to see them also in the social group, along with others.

I also hope for more members, there are now 8 of us. I'm curious how many different pyrrhogasters are in the hobby, so please join!