Still floating?

Interesting about the eggs. They have both just started to get all black fingernails. And i don't really know their sex yet. They are not that old, but who knows, the first idea i've heard that's different from others at least.

The tank is in a private room where the lights are always off, and it's a really big tank. So neither light or space can be the issue.

Have you read the things i've wrote before? Does it seem like normal floating?

Getting exhausted and just drifting around at the surface. Or swimming constantly trying to find a place that can hold her down, stressig the other axie i have?

The other one floats too. For a couple of days sometimes, but you can see her go down to the bottom when she want's. She seems in control, Poppy seems to have no control and gives up.
Feels wrong doing nothing. But i guess i have nothing left to do but wait.



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Hi! Update.

Had Poppy back in the tank for three days now, she hasn't float until today. But it started all over again, just a little at first, and toonight i got out of bed, checked her on my way back and she was floating upside down. She's been like that a couple of hours now.


The alarming thing is that she spent 11 days in the fridge, eating a normal portion of food every second day and didn't poop during the visit in the fridge. Back in the tank i could easily miss it, but as far as i can see, she hasn't passed any food yet.

Her stomache has not seem swollen, (except right after she eats. ) In fact some days she's seemed thinner, like the food is gone. So some part of her digestive system workes at least.


I just have a feeling that floating upside down isn't a good sign? Am i wrong?

During the night i can hear them both Gulping for air a lot ( i check sometimes ) during the night my other axie also floats at the surface, but during daytime she's at the bottom. And never gulpes, just seems like she's playing around at night. All normal none alarming behaviour, a content lotl that does as she pleases.

I'll try to get a good pic of Poppy tomorrow when the natural light in the room is better, i only see them now in the dark because they are white ;p practical though.



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Have you read this post? It seems it may be genetic and it's a mutation that means she can't breathe out properly, making her float. What you're describing sounds more like this than normal voluntary holding-her-breath for a short while behaviour.
 
Thank you, that just might be it. But i'm scared to just do nothing.
This article says though that these floaters seem healthy otherwise, my Poppy gets really swollen from time to time, otherwise healthy but like she can't pass food and gets all bloated. I mean, she stops to float in lower water, just after some days. So it doesn't add up either, but i'll try keeping her in the tank.




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One of my guys is a chronic floater. I would say as long as its eating and shows no sign of stress it shouldn't be an issue. If you can try to watch your axolotl, I caught mine purposely eating bubbles to float. When he wants to sink he will spit them out. Better to not stress out the axolotl, if it wants to be a balloon let it fulfill its dream.
 
Velice said:
He posted another thread about this problem: http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-beginner-newt-salamander-axolotl-help-topics/f48-axolotls-ambystoma-mexicanum/f58-sick-axolotl/95888-help-swollen-axolotl.html

Seems it floats belly facing up and struggles to write itself causing his axolotl frustration. Usually when they gulp air they are capable of controlling their orientation.
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This makes me think that there might be some type of internal infection that is causing a buildup of gases. Could the axolotl be reacting to some type of food? maybe a switch in diet can stop this?
 
I've tried three different diets, for like a month each. Schrimps, earthworms, and now red mosquito larvae.


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Ai said:
I've tried three different diets, for like a month each. Schrimps, earthworms, and now red mosquito larvae.
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I know and you must get annoyed having to keep typing that. I wish some would read through the thread before actually posting.
 
A bit, but it's okey. Just amazed that so many want's to help. Really greatful :)

I put her back in the tank today and gonna watch her.
She turns upside down sometimes, but i put some more plastic plants att the surface so she can turn around now more than before. Seems to be working so far


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(I'm still writing she allthough i'm pretty sure that it's a male. )

And i've noticed that he gulpes a lot of air during the night when he floats at the surface. But if he swims around he burpes bubbles out again. So that seems to be working.

I'm not expecting that much more help anymore, seems like i've heard everything there is twice already. And tried it.

I'll keep trying to find a vet, keep him in the tank keep updating, maybe it can help someone else. Escpecially if he gets better.

Thank you all again! :)





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Okay i skimed through the thread so I am sorry if this has already been asked. What are the water parameters? Ammonia, nitrite nitrate and ph. Floating is completely normal for some axolotls, and expecially still young axolotls. One of mine use to always play dead. What makes me wonder about your water quality os that you said you only do 10% water change weakly which is in most cases not enough.

A buildup of toxins in the water would make your axolotls want to spend a lot more time a the surface, and because they are still young(and clumsy) which would make the chance of inhaling or swallowing air more likely to happen. Since you say they are gulping a lot of air, its a good possibility. Though i noticed this with a couple of my babies, it is a habit they seem to grow out of over time.
 
The parameters are stabile and no ammonia. I did water changes a lot before, but was told to do less. So i am now, 10-20% weekly and a bigger one maybe every second or third.
They do not gulp air a lot, just sometimes at night when they float, like they think water movements are food.
But my other axie spends her time at the bottom or in a plant, she hasn't changed at all since i got her.

They're both in the tank now and eats like normal. Poppy still floats, but will see what happens.


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It's been a couple of weeks in the tank now.
Poppy is still floating, a lot, but seems to have found his way around the tank, where to rest and what to grab so to speak. Today he was swimming very calm. Still with his bum in the air but not frenetic and stressful as he usually does. So maybe this is just floating that won't go away but something he can live with.
Still eating normal, and his stomache is not swollen anymore.




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Poppy today, bum floats up when he walks, but he can walk on the bottom now!! I've only fed them schrimps after i read that more fat in their food can help floating. Now after a couple of weeks he can walk again! Amazing, and making me very happy!


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