Swollen Orange Wart

[louise]

I would keep his box on the dry side, maybe just lightly misting the paper towel rather than wetting it. Doesn't sound hopeful though.

 

[newtboyuk]

Hello,

Shedding is normally that quick in mandarin newts (you usually don’t catch them in the act!) especially once they've got the skin past the shoulders. It's a common response if they've been treated with anything topically or are stressed. The frequency also increases therefore I wouldn’t be surprised if he sheds again soon.

Even if it is healing, the risk of infection is very high with a big open wound like that. A one off treatment with an antibiotic isn't likely to be enough - especially as you don't know what it was.

Even a vet with no experience of amphibians should be able to take a swab, send it away for bacterial culture and in the meantime prescribe you something that’s likely to target the types of bacteria that amphibians are prone to.

If it's at all possible, I'd recommend getting veterinary attention.

All the best of luck and I hope he recovers,

 

[smoothoperator]

no, he's not eating at all, i put a cricket in front of him and he looks and walks the other way.
(might go out to buy meal worms later, a 'slower' catch, even though i'm using tweezers to just kinda.. 'hand feed' him the crickets...)

he's only energetic when i open the lid to clean everthing, and he tries to escape and climb out. faster than usual too!
when i put him on my hand, he climbs everywhere, so fast that it's even hard for me to keep him from dropping!

will post pictures later. but i warn you, it's not pretty...

 

[smoothoperator]

Alright, here it is.

For comparison, this if BEFORE

NOW:

The "Blood", I tried to take a soft wet paper towel to maybe 'soak' it up, but once i touched it VERY GENTLY, he winced like it was very painful. I'm prayign it's not a new wound...

What am I supposed to do if this DOESN'T get better?
I'm trying to stay positive but it's very hard.
He's not eating, and is only energetic when he tries to escape.

Do...you think the wound is healing?

I read about Cotia or Cortia or something like that...could this be it?
Salt baths might help but it'll kill me to see him in more pain.

I'm going to take him back to the nice people at the store I went to the other day for another couple of their 'red medicated drops'... I wonder if it's safe to even keep doing this, with a wound so deep that his bones are sticking out?!

 

[lilacdragon7]

I'm worried the red stuff they used is Iodine. . . which is toxic to newts? Just throwing that out there.

I'm SO very sorry this is happening. I'm thinking about you and reading as much as I can.

 

[Lasher]

Sorry to say it, but that doesnt look good.
Definatley start giving him salt baths and gently wash any ick away from the wound. May be worth fridging him.

You could go back to the store and ask them what they used, we may be better able to judge if what they're doing is helping or not before you take him back for another treatment.

 

[newtons13]

I agree with a post above, that it looks like an abscess.

I don't really know very much about newts myself, but have worked in several veterinary clinics. I just wanted to present the option that you may want to consider euthanasia for the newt if this continues to get worse. It looks extremely painful, and is not fair to keep him like that if it is.
I know with snakes you can freeze them to humanely slow down then stop their metabolism and heart. I don't know if this is humane for newts or not.

I am very sorry you are going through this. I once had a frog with an abscess on his leg, and unfortunately he did not recover.

I wish you and your little guy the best, and hope for a full recovery. I also hope that I did not come off cold or heartless. I just try to do what's best.

~rachel

 

[herpvet]

Hello,

Just a quick note to point out that freezing is NOT currently considered a humane method of euthanasia for any conscious animals - it is considered painful. See http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/euthanasia.shtml for more details in newts.

Hope this helps

Bruce.

>>I don't really know very much about newts myself, but have worked in several veterinary clinics. I just >>wanted to present the option that you may want to consider euthanasia for the newt if this >>continues to get worse. It looks extremely painful, and is not fair to keep him like that if it is.
>>I know with snakes you can freeze them to humanely slow down then stop their metabolism and >>heart. I don't know if this is humane for newts or not.

 

[louise]

>>I know with snakes you can freeze them to humanely slow down then stop their metabolism and >>heart. I don't know if this is humane for newts or not.

This is not actually true. It apparently is a very slow and painful way to kill cold blooded animals, as ice crystals form in their brains before they die due to their slow metabolism,. There are research papers on the internet about it if you use Google.

 

[oregon newt]

Poor thing.

 

[lilacdragon7]

wow... alright. Give me an update. How's your little guy?

 

[smoothoperator]

Well,
I had to go fly to Malaysia for a while for work, so I decided to give him back to the store.

They said they'll take care of him the best they can, and I can go back whenever I'm ready...

It may seem like a heartless decision, but I did it with much thought...

I don't know when I'll be back for Hong Kong but let's hope by the time I go back, my newt will magically be back to normal...

Thanks for all your support. You guys are great!

 

[lilacdragon7]

That's so sad... I'm sorry, I do hope he's ok and waiting for you!

 

[newtons13]

WOW! I feel horrible. I had no idea that was so bad. I apologize to all for my mis-suggestion. I appreciate the link and quote from the euthanasia article. I guess that's why we have these forums, so we can all learn.

Any update on the condition of the poor little fellow?

~r

Hello,

Just a quick note to point out that freezing is NOT currently considered a humane method of euthanasia for any conscious animals - it is considered painful. See http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/euthanasia.shtml for more details in newts.

Hope this helps

Bruce.

>>I don't really know very much about newts myself, but have worked in several veterinary clinics. I just >>wanted to present the option that you may want to consider euthanasia for the newt if this >>continues to get worse. It looks extremely painful, and is not fair to keep him like that if it is.
>>I know with snakes you can freeze them to humanely slow down then stop their metabolism and >>heart. I don't know if this is humane for newts or not.