T. shanjing eggs

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paris

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soooo...i walking past the shanjing tank, they are now at room temp, and i noticed something on the bottom of the tank that caught my eye....it was an egg, already dividing into the neural tube stage! so im not sure when these were laid but its been in the past 2 days-i think?-once i saw the one i looked on the plants and saw nothing but when i pulled back the moss on their land section-wham! i easily see about 20..this is great! one bad photo for now-better ones to come later....
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anyone know of the top of their head how many eggs per female im in for?-oh and how long it will take for them to be done laying?
 
Fantastic! I have never read anything about 30-60 eggs, rather 100 to 300! A very good article about this species can be found at the site of the Dutch Sal Society, first you have to look under Salamanders, than under Soorten. The article has a English summary. The egg-laying period is very short, sometimes just a few days.
 
Congrats on yet another major breeding accomplishment, Paris.

The P. caudopunctatus, the arboreal sals and now this!

What next?
 
Congratulations Paris!

My female laid around 35-40eggs over about two days.

Best of luck with them!
 
ok-some promised pics-no new eggs seen today, so those might have been the total output for one of the females, here is a pic of their laying set up
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the plants and moss are over near the land section-i did find some eggs on elodea and the java fern-but most were wedged in the moss on the land section. i have them removed from there and in the cricket basket in the parents tank-this way they can have the benefit of the larger stable water body w/o parental interference..here is a shot of a male/female pair-
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2 girls definitely still have this plump appearance
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Congratulations!
Paris, how can you do that? do you mind share some experience?
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Congrats Paris. This is the coolest news I've read on here since Jen bred the N. strauchii. I look forward to reading on their development.
 
thanks jeff, now i got to be carefull i dont botch it! im worried though-i looked closer at the eggs and they arent as advanced as i thought-so have collapsed so im sure those are duds, i fear taking them out of the water and putting them under the microscope may harm them so i havent tried it yet
 
Well, hopefully some are fertilized.

Also, Good luck. From what I've heard (I think I read it once somewhere on this site) it's easier to breed shanjing than it is to raise them.
 
Good job Paris. I hope that all goes well with hatching. Mine are going swimming quite a bit however I have not found any eggs at this point.
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chwan,
here is a link to what happened when i got them http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/985/17162.html?1090440638
since then i have fattened them up an was keeping them in the upper 60's, they showed signs of interest recently so i moved them to my house where the average water temp is 75, i keep my room window open so it can get as high as 80F in the air temps for a few hours a day but it will go into the 60's at night, i am told not to keep them at these temps for more than 2 months, so when they are done they will go back to upper 60's
 
Paris,
Great photos! but why the kweichows have head wounds ? and what is batryl and flagyl ?
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(Message edited by chwan on June 30, 2005)
 
chwan, actually they are barely adequate photos-done as still pics on a 1MP digital video cam....but!-this weekend i get to borrow the school cam so can take some real clear and detailed ones. the animals came into the american market pretty stressed, ulcers are not uncommon signs of stress and poor care in shipping containers and retailers tanks can add to the problem. batryl is a broad spectrum antibiotic (see this link http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/13/35580.html?1117042732 for details about batryl-its in the 9th posting that i explain) flagyl is an anti parasitic drug, usually used in cows i think, but we have used it before with good results on frogs and newts-it has to be orally given and so isnt used as a preventative as much as it stresses out the animals to administer it...plus some of my frogs just used to spit it up anyways.....
 
Congrats Paris, how is your marbles now? After I read your link I think that batryl is very useful to heal the salamander
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In your experience, which one is better (batryl or flagyl ? )
 
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