T. verrucosus setup

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Just getting some ideas on setting up a t.verrucocsus enclosure. Any tips? I got the basic idea. Just checking for some more.
 
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My adult Tylototriton verrucosus tank is a 60 cm long x 30 deep x 35 cm tall aquarium, just under half full of water. It has no gravel/substrate. One corner has an island made from piling slaves of petrified wood and slate. The island is about 12 cm x 12 cm in area. There is a lot of Egeria densa (aka Anacharis), and some java moss attached to slender pieces of petrified wood.

The aquarium receives about 12 hours of fluorescent light per day (it's on a timer). Temperature is maintained at a minimum of 18 degrees C (winter) and allowed to vary with the room temperature for the rest of the year. The tank is filtered by an internal power filter. The animals don't seem to have any problems with a slight flow of water in the tank, but I have the filter at an angle such that the water emerges vertically (a little like a fountain but the flow only causes ripples on the surface, not a fountain).

At temperatures below 18 degrees, it has been my experience that the animals require a more terrestrial set up because they spend more time out of the water. They seem quite content to remain in this nearly fully aquatic setup indefinitely, though at the temperatures mentioned, and as you know my adults have bred a number of times since the beginning of this year (6 spawnings at the last count), so it seems to be OK.

You can keep them in a more terrestrial set up if you wish, but they seem a lot more active when aquatic and they look far more attractive when in the water than on land (at least in my opinion). Having talked to others, there doesn't seem to be any disadvantage in this kind of setup, the only important thing seems to be a variance in temperature over the year (in my case 18 degrees in winter to mid twenties in the summer).

-John
 
I just thought I would post a photo of my Tylototriton verrucosus setup that I described in that previous message. The tank is about 60 cm long x 30 cm wide and 35 cm tall. Here it is:

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John
Are this species of newt good climbers of glass?
I am asking because my usual tanks are covered with screen lids with small gaps for the filter tube.
I have been looking at lids with fixtures for lighting, also gaps for heating element and filter,but none of them seem to be a snug fit.
 
The adults are too big to climb glass, but juveniles under about 8 cm can climb. However, they don't bother if they're kept correctly, and they're quite tame in captivity. In my experience, they don't seem to have as high a desire to wander (and therefore escape) as some species. All of my juveniles over 7 cm are tame enough to feed by hand and they'll often "follow" me from within their tanks.

I'll take a photo tonight of the typical setup I use for metamorphs and you'll see how I keep them.

John
 
I've been without internet access at home for the last day or two so this may have to wait. Sorry.

John
 
Well after some rummaging around on my hard drive:

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All the juveniles in that tank are over 8 cm and most of the ones in that tank metamorphosed at about 7 or 8 cm. The tank is 45 cm long (18 inch to you people living in the past) and 30 cm wide (12 inches to our prehistoric friends *grin*). It has a heater and a very small fluval internal filter. No substrate. The water temperature was kept at about 24 degrees Celsius (75 F to you cave men/women). Some people reading this own some of the animals that grew up in that tank (Morg for one).

PS: I am only feigning metric fascism...
 
John, do you also use a heater with your T. verrucosus egg respectively hatching setups?

Ralf
 
Yes, I keep eggs, larvae and juveniles (not adults) at between 24 and 25 degrees Celsius using a heater, unless I'm going away for a while. In those cases I will either turn the heater off if it's summer or turn it down to 18 degrees Celsius to minimise their appetites while I'm away. My adults are kept at a minimum of 18 degrees Celsius no matter the time of the year.
 
Ah, well Grandmother (the one at the top of this thread) just made Grandfather v.proud last night by laying so many eggs I can't count them. She's got a habit of doing that, though I've prevented her from breeding for the last 7 or so months.

How big are the grand kids you have? Any pics?
 
John... some of the animals you mentioned that grew up in that tank are now owned by me; Morg is busy raising the next generation. That's why I was keen to work out the relationship between those (big!)individuals and the original pair I had off you.

On a less personal note, I've been itching to say on this forum for ages that if anyone is vaguely interested in these or debating whether to get some, just do it. They are fab - charming, amusing, tame, interactive - just the best, very special. One of my great pleasures is when visitors to my house first see them (and they first see the visitors through the glass and amble over!). Next comes "Can I feed them too?", then "When can I have some?!"
Oh and thanks to you John for promoting awareness of them.
 
Hi Matt,

Yes, they truly are fantastic newts, particularly as pets. I think it's unfortunate that the other Tylototriton species aren't as tough and undemanding (I'll qualify that by saying it's my opinion and experience). Certainly, most people I know have had at least some difficulty with T. shanjing, T. kweichowensis and T. taliangensis. To some degree this trouble is due to imports of wild-caught animals, but captive bred metamorphs, particularly of T. shanjing, are delicate, and I must now say that T. kweichowensis isn't as robust as I had hoped either.

In any case, my plan to populate the world with Tylototriton verrucosus continues unabated. I'm really quite curious as to how many people have offspring from me or descended from my stock? I can think of at least 7 right now, but I think Morg is the champion at the moment.
 
John
I have passed on eggs-larvae-juveniles to nine people that I can think of.
Some of these will have already passed some on to others after keeping the ones they wanted, while Im sure that some have advanced larvae-juveniles ready to go soon.
Give it a few more years and the UK will be full of these newts, all traced back to John Clare-king verrucosus.
I must echo the comments on keeping the species in the above two posts.
Along with all the positives of keeping these newts, theres also the fact that you do not have to worry about keeping them cool either.
 
what about populating also Italy with these very nice newts???
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I've been looking for T.verrucosus for years, but nobody sells them in Italy, so I'll have to go to germany to buy some!!!
you all are so lucky!!!
bye
Leo
 
No pics, but the grandkids are doing great! One question - how big should they be at 3-4 weeks after hatching?
Chris
 
That question by itself is pretty meaningless. I will say that they could be as big as an 2.5 cm (an inch for the cave people). If they are 2 cm within 3 weeks you're doing very well. Daphnia and white worms (or grindal worms) seem to be the growth food for them. They don't grow as fast as most other species I've tried on bloodworm, so don't use that as the main food.
 
lol....you and your metric propaganda.

Oh wait, that's what I use too...please continue to taunt the Americans! :p
 
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