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I would like to starting keeping Newts, and right now I am doing research to get the ins and outs. I haven't bought anything yet. I am thinking of a 20G tank, leaning more toward 20 long than toward high, but I could go 40G. I don't know yet which type I want to keep. I know that I want enough room for them to move and swim without being cramped. I also don't want to be cramped for space myself. Should I use a mechanical filter or will live plants work? How much water should I have per Newt? Is there a certain depth range for the water and how much "land" surface should there be? Trying to get the general parameters here. Thank You in advance.

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Once you have a better idea which type of newt you are interested in you can make a more informed decision about the set up. It is not one type of set up fits all newts.
 
Once you have a better idea which type of newt you are interested in you can make a more informed decision about the set up. It is not one type of set up fits all newts.

Fire-Bellied are the ones that it most likely will be. I would like others, but I can't find a dealer locally and online shipping is terrible. I could easily collect from the wild, but that would possibly introduce diseases and who knows what else into the mix. Where does that put me?

Charles Sands
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Fire-Bellied are the ones that it most likely will be. I would like others, but I can't find a dealer locally and online shipping is terrible. Where does that put me?

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Firebelly newts(H. orientalis) are probably not the best option since most are wild caught and imported in bad conditions, often being sick, or just refusing water/food. If theres no breeders in your area, online is probably the only/best option(since you don't want to purchase newts from pet stores as they're almost always wild caught), shipping is usually around 25-30$. And all the animals sold on here are captive bred. P. waltl is a pretty easy specie to take care of and they're for sale more often than most other newts. You could probably house a trio in a 20 long, and you could basically fill it to the top since they don't come out of water very often, the most you'll need is a floating piece of cork bark, but mine are just kept fully aquatic, and a secure lid would be needed.
For Sale, Give-Away or Trade - FS: USA at Caudata.org Newt and Salamander Portal
Caudata Culture Species Entry - Pleurodeles waltl
 
Firebelly newts(H. orientalis) are probably not the best option since most are wild caught and imported in bad conditions, often being sick, or just refusing water/food. If theres no breeders in your area, online is probably the only/best option(since you don't want to purchase newts from pet stores as they're almost always wild caught), shipping is usually around 25-30$. And all the animals sold on here are captive bred. P. waltl is a pretty easy specie to take care of and they're for sale more often than most other newts. You could probably house a trio in a 20 long, and you could basically fill it to the top since they don't come out of water very often, the most you'll need is a floating piece of cork bark, but mine are just kept fully aquatic, and a secure lid would be needed.
For Sale, Give-Away or Trade - FS: USA at Caudata.org Newt and Salamander Portal
Caudata Culture Species Entry - Pleurodeles waltl

I found an online store ( reptilecity.com ) that says all their animals are from numerous breeders. Also, most animals are shipped free.

Charles Sands
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Chinese firebellies from reptilecity are undoubtedly wild-caught. Many other species they sell are the same case. Just from looking at their "quick care" at the top of the salamander page shows they're not a good place to purchase these animals from. 74 to 86 degrees would be lethal to most salamanders.
 
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