17 gallon Alpine newt tank.

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
It's been a while now and the plants are starting to get a hold, especially the Vallis, I've never been able to keep it alive in the past for some reason, so I'm happy about that.:)

The newts are growing as well and their colours are developing nicely. They do seem to be able to change colour at will like their parents, which is strange to watch! They are always quite light in the plants, but they can turn really dark, making them blend with the slate perfectly. The bigger ones have just learned to beg at the front of the tank as well, I'm really getting to like my Alpines and can't wait to see them all grown up with eye popping colours and crests. :)
 

Attachments

whiteblaze11

New member
Joined
May 15, 2010
Messages
27
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
Michigan
Country
United States
I love this setup! I'm thinking about doing something similar with my 20 galling long Kaiseri setup with a leveled in one corner and having slate bottom for feeding too!
 
Joined
Jun 13, 2009
Messages
113
Reaction score
4
Points
18
Country
United Kingdom
Hi cutting glass is very easy and second hand windows work fine and are usually free a glass cutters only about 2 pounds or cheeper. I put a thread up a year ago with my 6 yr old daughter cutting glass so you should be able to do it quite well enough. I hope this helps regards KB
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
Yes it's a lot easier than it looks, just be careful and If you do use second hand glass, make sure it's not toughened, it has a nasty habit of exploding like car windows do when you try to cut it!
 
Joined
Jun 13, 2009
Messages
113
Reaction score
4
Points
18
Country
United Kingdom
Hi Mate dead right on the toughened anyone new to it it often has a mark telling you (very feint) another giveaway is if all the edges are shiny and smooth they should be sharpe like broken glass. It wont cut it is dangerous to try . Avoid laminate as well it looks like two thin sheets of glass glued together when viewed from the side. I cut apart old double glazing units with a Stanley knife lots of free glass that most of the time they don't even recycle. regards KB
 

mr cyclone

Member
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
559
Reaction score
24
Points
18
Location
Edinburgh Scotland
Country
Scotland
I've had good success with Perspex I've ordered off eBay very easy to cut to size and a lot easier than getting glass strips, glaziers around my town have quoted ridiculous prices
 

tyzoone

New member
Joined
Apr 19, 2014
Messages
65
Reaction score
2
Points
0
Country
United States
This is looking awesome Chinadog! Keep the pics coming!
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
I've never been that happy with the lighting on this set up. I used two 9w Arcadia arcpods when I set it up and thought they'd do the job just fine. However, the Alpines are next door to the pyrrhos with their Beamswork Led lights so I could compare plant growth in both tanks and it soon became obvious which was the best.
I couldn't get the exact same fitting as the pyrrho's tank as they don't make one small enough, so I went for a Beamswork Green aspect planted tank fixture. Its only been on there for a week or so, but already there's already an improvement with the plants. The Alpines are going to be cooled down to overwinter soon, so hopefully when they go back in there'll be a dense jungle for them to hang out in. :)
 

Attachments

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
How big are the alpines now? The tank is looking good.

Stuart
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
They're about 50mm now, I guess. The males are starting to mature already though, so maybe they wont get much bigger.
 

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
My smallest male is about 55mm and largest is 70mm, so yours are pretty much adult sized.

Stuart
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
Yeah, maybe so, these are apuanus so apparently don't get as big as alpestris like yours.
 

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
That is true, they could well be fully grown though I suspect they may grow slightly more over the next year or so.

Stuart
 

sde

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 5, 2012
Messages
1,891
Reaction score
34
Points
48
Location
Seattle area Washington
Country
United States
Display Name
Seth
My smallest male is about 55mm and largest is 70mm, so yours are pretty much adult sized.

Stuart
Man, it never fails to surprise me at how small the rest of the newt world is...or should I say how large my first newts were. I had Taricha granulosa as my first newt, and they regularly get over 5 inches. The tiny morphs of T. granulosa are the size of adult I. alpestris alpestris!

Thanks for that info on lighting, Chinadog.
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
I've changed my mind about them being nearly full size, I saw some very old female apuanus yesterday afternoon that were easily 120mm long, the males weren't that far behind either. Very impressive!
 

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
I think that size would probably vary by the location the original wild stock come from?
I know that within subspecies populations can be isolated which would eventually cause them all to have even more similar characteristics e.g. Lack of variation in colouration, size etc.

Stuart
 

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
How are the newts and tank doing?
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
How are the newts and tank doing?
They are doing really well, the only issue has been the male to female ratio. Out of the eight newts that I kept in the end only one was male, but having searched around the archives it seems like its normal for apuanus like these.
They aren't even a year old yet, but the males have crests and the biggest female has been laying eggs on and off for a few weeks now, I don't have room to hatch any at the moment, but once my smallest T. verrucosus re-joins his siblings I will have a spare tank so hopefully the females will still be laying then.
I'll post some up to date pics of them soon. :)
 

Stupot1610

New member
Joined
Nov 8, 2013
Messages
448
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Country
United Kingdom
They are doing really well, the only issue has been the male to female ratio. Out of the eight newts that I kept in the end only one was male, but having searched around the archives it seems like its normal for apuanus like these.
They aren't even a year old yet, but the males have crests and the biggest female has been laying eggs on and off for a few weeks now, I don't have room to hatch any at the moment, but once my smallest T. verrucosus re-joins his siblings I will have a spare tank so hopefully the females will still be laying then.
I'll post some up to date pics of them soon. :)
That's great. Are they fully grown now?
I've got myself a few eggs now so I'm hoping they'll be nice and bright next year. I've also got five I.a.inexpectatus juveniles which are supposed to look just like apuanus, but most stay neotenic, I'll be interested to see how they turn out in comparison.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • AlexisJG:
    As long as they don’t seem stressed that’s good and I mean hey if their well fed maybe they’ll live long happy lives together.
    +2
    Unlike
  • HalfDrunkToast:
    oh ya they are happy xD every time i come in to my room my Koy betta is like HI HI HI and actively swimming around
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Nerodia1:
    Děkuji za přijetí. Hledám tohoto obojživelníka, Typhlonectes compressicauda, nevíte, kde ho získat, nejlépe někde v Evropě.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Caudex has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    VEEK has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Lanalotl:
    My axie is acting woerd he was a rescue as stated in a different post he got better and now seems to be deteriorating again...again all tank conditions are OK and as should be. He seems to have some black dapple like pattern under his bottom lip? Is that normal? And his two back feet have a little wierd growth? Almost? Tiny tiny tiny lump. His capillaries in his feathers also appear darker and more visible. Any help would be appreciated
    +1
    Unlike
  • Lanalotl:
    Hes a leucistic axie
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    AmphibiGirl has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Dibgame:
    Hey guys. First time on this forum and im not sure what formatting i should use but hey here i go.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Jadezoey:
    Hi! I'm being in a hard position where I have to re-home my axolotls. I'm moving out and I would like to find them a new home with someone who can take proper care of them
    +1
    Unlike
  • Jadezoey:
    I have an adult wild type and a juvenile leucistc
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • BigAl:
    Oops my bad accidentally sent that
    +1
    Unlike
  • Binditheaxolotl:
    @HalfDrunkToastLol
    +1
    Unlike
  • AxieMomma87:
    is anyone online???
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has joined the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • AxieMomma87:
    Are you still here
    +1
    Unlike
  • ZayneSantos:
    Is there anyone on who can give me advice?
    +1
    Unlike
  • Max2445:
    @ZayneSantos, What advice do you need
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    based on this video what type of salamander might this larva be? I suspect either eastern newt or spotted salamander
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    help appreciated
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    they are from missouri
    +1
    Unlike
    KrabzAga: they are from missouri +1
    Top