Amphibian disease

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It certainly wouldn't do them any harm at this point, would it.
Don't get me wrong, I love my hobby, but on the rare occasions I go to reptile/herp shops for supplies I leave feeling almost guilty by association. Its normally possible to find amphibians kept at the wrong temperature, or wrong set up completely, Mixed species of stressed tortoises/turtles cooped up in tiny vivarium type enclosures with bubbling noses, closed eyes or even shell injuries from being dug out the ground for export while hibernating in their homelands. I don't know anything about snakes or lizards, but seeing how they perform with other species its probably a similar story with those as well.
As the years roll on, we're increasingly distanced from the wildlife around us and herps are a good way to teach kids respect and curiosity for the natural world, but not when the animals involved are sick/dying when bought.
I would hate to see herp keeping banned, I really would, but we do ourselves no favours, sometimes.
I totally agree with the way you feel but my concern is that good quality hobbyist may be the only "ark" for many species that most likely will face extinction in the wild within our lifetime. We as a species tend to not address problems until they are far too gone to have anything done to halt the issue. In some cases there are more of an abundance of species individuals in captivity than wild populations. Even tigers for petes sake have higher numbers in zoos and private collections than in the wild, and thats a beloved iconic fuzzy creature. I sincerely hope I'm wrong but we may wipe the majority of the "lesser" creatures out before we figure out as a species how to coexist with the world in which we live. At that point, captive breeding and re-release may be our only option of species survival in wild populations. Sorry so grim, just something to think about.
 

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in colorado our native bullfrog population definitely has Chytrid. They are one the main carriers since many somehow survive the disease and remain characters.........this summer after seein several large bullfrogs with only bones for a limb , I captured on and had it sent to be tested......Chytrid positive


even more sad a friend who is a bi8ologist says they have been aware of it many years and stopped stocking bullfrog larvae as fish bait........jerks


Idk how many people realize how nasty and strange a pathogen chytrid id but if something doesn't change over 90% of all earths amphibians could be dead in less than 20 year,,,,,,,,,,,,,

My advice isolate your collections, do not buy or trade any new amphibians unless you know for certain thee collection is tested regularly and at all cost DO NOT mess with the American bullfrog........it is number one carrier of chytrid world wide..


sorry but bad news can be good news


peace
 

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Sorry it is pointless to treat colo waste water imho. Most tiger salamanders and bullfrogs are positive and lot passes on to crustaceans n insects in what not I believe.....until it runs its course or some miracle cure comes this is just a mass extinction .....thing that scares people more and more it is a multi species disease............amphibians are not exclusive
 

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can someone help me? idk how to post on this site and I'm super worried about my axolotl :(
 
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    Help! I got my first axolotl two days ago and they have stopped eating. They ate a few frozen blood worms the first day and haven’t eaten or been interested in food since. I feed them frozen blood worms and the tank is around 64 degrees. I do have a filter that moves sometimes and I noticed them swimming up to it, I have a new filter and a fan coming today or tomorrow. I leave the worms in the tank or a little bit before taking them out so I don’t know if they ate when I wasn’t looking. I know it takes a while for them to digest. Does anyone have any tips or knowledge they can share? The pet store I bought them from didn’t have gravel or sand in the tank so I’m not sure if theres an issue or if I’m just impatient. Thank you!
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    @MuggleMiChu, how big they are? also for substrate, i would not do gravel at all I would either do sand or none at all!
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    They are about 2-3 inches long and I have them in a bare bottom tank
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    @MuggleMiChu I would say try live black/blood worms untell they are full or just turn there head away ( that's what mine do) if that does not work try to get some live brine shrimp and see if they eat that. baby axolotl prefer live food over frozen food as the frozen food is too cold for them or they can't eat it in one go( that's if you do the blocks) mine eat chopped up frozen thawed shrimp. as for them not eating from what I have experienced with my second axolotl, I got her when she was about an inch long and she ate every day, when they start getting 3-4 inches long they will gradually slow down there eating. and if you really want to do substrate I would do sand because if they do ingest a little bit it won't hurt them.
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    HalfDrunkToast: @MuggleMiChu I would say try live black/blood worms untell they are full or just turn there head... +1
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