Axie has internal parasite, ethical to euthanize?

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Hi friends,

I came home from vacation yesterday to a very anxious mom and sister in regard to my axie's health... I think he had/has an internal parasite that caused some quality of life damage, and I'm struggling to make a decision about continuing to try treating versus euthanizing him. I've attached pictures below of a very long, white, wormlike thing he either pooped or threw up while I was gone (about a day or two after I fed him a full, cut-up earthworm, except the pieces were larger than what I cut) and what he looked like, plus the oddly cloudy state of his tank, right before I got back. I fed him a single small piece of earthworm last night and then immediately tubbed him in the fridge. Within a half hour, he passed the worm in a normal, healthy stool. I also added some crushed metronidazole to the tub---this seemed to help him stop sloughing his mucus (which he'd been doing for a few weeks and I was treating with tea baths and recently read is a symptom of a parasite).

Over the last few months I thought he had some bloat/impaction (the latter way less likely) so I'd fed him a few peas periodically and given him salt baths but he floats constantly and is now unable to swim to the bottom of his tank or turn around without flipping or rolling upside down or sideways. My mom also said it looks like his back legs might be paralyzed.

I've had him for almost three years, and it's difficult to consider euthanizing him, but he's been showing unhealthy signs for about a year now and taking him to a vet isn't a financial option for me.

If anyone has a hail Mary idea, I'd be glad to hear it, but I don't know if I can let him live like this for another week.

Tank parameters:
pH: 6.6 (dropped from ~7 while I was gone)
Ammonia: .25 ppm
Nitrite: 0 ppm
Nitrate: 10 ppm (increased from 5 ppm while I was gone)

I did do a 20% water change after taking these and am still fridging him with metronidazole.
 

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Wow, well is would be very hard to have to get rid of an axolotl, but I think that there are medications to help. I think one medicine is "metrondazle" (for aquatics). I believe that you can dose the tank/separate medication tub with the liquid version of the medicine. That should help kill the parasites, although if you think that it would truly be more humane to euthanize it, you could.
 
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  • Not Albino Alex:
    And even .25 ammonia is bad what you want for nitrite and ammonia is 0 and .25 for short periods
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  • faebugz:
    @DarthNyQuil, what's your ph? Ammonia is non-toxic at lower ph so might not need to panic, however if you have hard water (think calcium deposits in a tea kettle), you likely have a high pH and thus should be maintaining 0. Either way, use seachem prime to dechlorinate your water and get the added benefit of making ammonia and nitrite non-toxic for 24 hours, the peace of mind is worth it.
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  • faebugz:
    @DarthNyQuil, to cycle more quickly/safely, see if you have a friend or trusted LFS with some filter media you could add to your filter. It will cycle it almost instantly, far better than bottled stuff. Speaking of bottled insta-cycle, some people swear by tetra safe start, although I've never used it myself so can't vouch for it. And finally to make it more safe, feel free to do larger water changes to get that ammonia lower- 90% of the bacteria you're growing is in the filter, 9% on surfaces, and maybe 1%> in the water column. So even a
    100% water change won't really effect the cycle process
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  • lvlyvoa:
    hey thank you all so much for your help!! i shouldn't have been so careless, but I love my axie very much and her behaviour has improved as I have started a tank cycle and gotten some good food for her
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    @lvlyvoa, good to hear, np. They love nightcrawlers and worms if you have access to them, they're the healthiest thing they can eat since they're a complete prey
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  • Jaeger:
    My axolotls were doing fine until the cycle int heir tank crashed. I currently have them tubbed and they wont stop shedding their slime coat, and my golden albino looks a little red, and his gills dont look too good. Theyre both flaoting and im keeping the tub at 18 degrees celsius and doing 100% water changes everyday, any help on anythingelse? can anyone help?
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  • AkemiYousei:
    @Jaeger I would try to double up on Prime to combat the slime coat shed when doing the 100% water changes. Also, if it's bad, might want to consider a tea bath as a preventive measure.
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    I just wrote this on the post ^
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    Haha, great minds, right?
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    They sure do 😄!
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  • Jaeger:
    @AkemiYousei thanks so much. Will do. I have also given them a tea bath before, seems to work their gills are looking so much healthier, my golden albino is swimming around frantically trying to jump out, should i be worried? my wild type is fine
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    Might be the stress, or the shedding bothering it
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    Make sure s/he can't jump out, and maybe keep her in a undisturbed, darkened place for a bit. See if that calms the goldie.
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    I woke up to my golden axolotl covered complete white. what do i do
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    Just found out, hes dead. :(
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    :'(
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    my axolotl has white balls on its gills and the feathers have shrunk
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