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Dog Shrink

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I know this is a bit late but I love your set ups... they all look so great, natural, perfectely simulatedl il bits of home in captivity. Great job :thumbsup:
 

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Its never too late. I love any comment at anytime. Thanks for the feed back. Which tank was your fav. This survey goes out to all people. I would love feedback.:D
 

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The forest terrarium and this one:
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... are by far my favorites thus far. I love tanks that looks like you just took a little spot of nature and plopped it into the viv.
 

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I had to clean out my tiger salamander tank and made some modifications. here is a picture.

I swear he is a barred tiger salamander. What do you guys think?
 

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Why did you put in that much gravel?
For the human eye this maybe looks nice, but tiger salamanders need moss and deep soil to dig in. Gravel is just disturbing.

Greetings,
Mario
 

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The gravel is a filler so that the salamanders don't get down into the stacking rocks. The dirt is about 5" deep in the back of the tank and they have a hide and they have the moss.
 

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Here is my new Tylototriton cf. Kweichowensis tank.
 

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This a 40 gallon aquarium. 1/3 of it is land that is completely dry.
 

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Sorry I haven't updated in a while. I have some new terrarium designs that I will post pics of soon.
 

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Why did you put in that much gravel?
For the human eye this maybe looks nice, but tiger salamanders need moss and deep soil to dig in. Gravel is just disturbing.

Greetings,
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Around here, tiger habitat is grass on dirt on a deep bed of gravel on top of sandstone. Any moss is green in April and crispy the rest of the year. Drive a half hour out of town, and the main difference to the habitat is that grass is supplemented by sagebrush and cactus, gravel is sometimes replaced by sand, and soil may have significant amounts of bentonite clay. Most tigers just don't live in green mossy environments, but dry savana, prairie, and even semi-desert. Certainly a good medium to burrow in is required, but almost anything described as "dirt" will do. The fact so many tiger species and populations are neotenic or spend the summer feeding in water, is likely because the habitat outside of the water is only salamander-suitable under ground.
 

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Sorry I haven't updated in a while but here it goes. And these are all the animals I have.
Kweichow tank-40 gallon 50/50 setup
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Tiger tank-20 gallon with deep dirt
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My barred girl who I believe is in breeding condition but I could be wrong.
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Neotenic Gracile Tank-10 gallon
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Marbled Salamander Tank-10 gallon
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Axolotl aquarium-40 gallon without dividers
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Here are some more pics of her
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This winter I am planning to do a lot of remodeling with the Yangi tank while they are in their terrestrial tank. My plan is to really gut and clean it for the first time. Maybe change the design a little with new sand and more plants on the land. I also have some big trades planned for late september and will be getting the following hopefully:

3 triturus carnifex morphs (1 flavistic)
3 triturus dobrogicus morphs
3 tylototriton verrucosus

And this one could be a hit or miss, but I am shooting for 3 triturus marmoratus juviniles or if I can get 1.2 adults I will.

I will post pics of the walt tank soon.
 

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Sorry but I just had to throw my two cents worth in.

In my opinion that is not deep dirt. That looks like three to four inches of dirt to me. In my opinion tigers should have TONS of digging room, 5 inches at least, maybe even a foot or so. Also what is the Oregon newt? T. Granulosa? Also I think that the neotone A. Gricile should have more hides personally. Just my opinions.
 

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And that Axi is going to have a fun time on that worm!:p.
And is there such a thing as a terrestrial Caecilian?
 

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We may be thinking about different concepts, but what i call a stream terrarium is completely inadequate for Hypselotriton or Cynops.

Wow, this is way late but....I was not talking about cynops. Fire bellied toads were what I was talking about. And the stream terrarium went horribly. I used aquarium safe foam and got everything set and the tank looked great. But after a week, the foam began to collapse. One day I came home from school and the "beautiful" tank was a horrifying pool of foam chunks, moss, dirt, and rocks. All the animals were fine, just greatly annoyed.

Evan
 
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    Hey guys, its way too hot where I live right now. Temperatures 40 degree celcius outside, making it like 30 degrees inside. Ive got ice packs on my yellow spotted salamanders hidey rock, he acts like he hates it though. Am I keeping him too cold? I think my temp gauge might be messed up, or at least in the wrong spot. I put the tank temp gauge in the top left corner of his large tank, where it says its 80 degrees fahrenheit, which I am aware is too hot, which is what makes me put the ice packs on his rock at the bottom of the cage, but the bottom of his cage feels a lot cooler tha 80 degrees. Should I move my temp gauge down to the bottom corner where he hangs out the most? Should I get a soil temperature probe so I can tell what temperature the soil that hes laying on is?
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    Because his soil is certainly not 80 degrees fahrenheit, and I dont want to freeze the poor bugger with ice packs if he really doesnt need them. Hes been doing fine, but Im just so stressed because I cant get ANy information on how to handle this little guy. Theyre illegal to keep without a permit, but this one would not have survived without my intervention. So I cant call and ask anyone for help. If theres a betetr site than this one, I sure havent found it. But I never get any replies here. We are all just asking questions and getting none answered basically. Its really frustrating as I just want to help this little dude be happy and healthy. All I can get him to eat is potato bugs as well. I cant find anything else that he will eat. Is that even okay? :/ hes been eating strictly those since may first.
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    Alright well I bought a bunch of stuff for his tank and hope it helps. Im getting extremelty frustrated that bI cant get an answer. Guess buddies just gonna have to die or some shit. like wtf why cant I get any help.
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    I'm afraid this is the largest and most active community for this kind of information, probably on the entire internet. That said, we are still small overall. We can't help you all of the time. We do offer you support and have answered your questions in the past so I feel it's very impolite to lose patience with us.
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    Second of all, was you who said you wild caught your salamander? And had Authorities threaten to retrieve it from you?
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    Third of all, assuming thats the case, no one seems to want to face the reality that these animals come from climates and microenvironments where they need to be kept cool. If you can't hack, then release it where you pulled it from.
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    he was dying outside. SO SORRY i was nice enough to save him. can i even release him in wetaher thats 40 degree celcius? will he not just die outside because he cant dig through the hard ground?
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    The ONLY reason I spent 500 dollars on this thing was to keep him alive. thats IT. He was completely dry with cracked skin and couldnt walk and I nursed him back to health. Now I should just throw him outside on the hard baked ground where I found him? in my driveway? Really dude?
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    I am losing patienc ebecause I care. Because I cant get any answers in any length of time that will actually benefit him. He'll only eat potato bugs, I just want him to have good rest of his life. Thats IT. So dont act like I went out an dillegally trapped some poor salamander out of the wild for fun cuz I wanted one.
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    I am very sure he was just trying to pass by, because he certainly cant dig ANYWHERE in the soil ANYWHERE near where I live. So I cannot just release him in 40 degree celcius on the super hard baked ground where theres no shelter and no food and now ater to be seen for miles. I dont see how that wioll help him at all.
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