My axolotl has a sore mouth, does it have fungus? does he have an infection? I don't know how to identify

[Vitoria yuri]

Can someone help me ? i'm in trouble, i live in japan i couldn't find a doctor, i believe my axolotl was injured in his mouth and i think he has fungus in the wounds, but i can't identify if there is an infection, but he is eating, but apparently less than usual, they advised me to take a salt bath, I am very afraid of salt baths, I did it for the first time, I am very worried and afraid, they asked to cool the water, also if anyone could evaluate it, it is 2 years old age, is he growing well?

 

[wolfen]

use holfreters in the tank water, info here.. Axolotls - Requirements & Water Conditions in Captivity. use 100% until wound on mouth and tail is healed then use 50% as standard to keep the correct water minerals and salts.
also make sure that the water has good oxygenation.
bath wise methyline blue would be more effective as it is antibacterial, info here.. Tubbing and Safe Meds - Oregon Axolotls

 

[Vitoria yuri]

use holfreters na água do tanque, informações aqui. Axolotls - Requisitos e Condições da Água em Cativeiro . use 100% até que a ferida na boca e na cauda esteja curada, em seguida, use 50% como padrão para manter os sais e minerais da água corretos.
certifique-se também de que a água tenha boa oxigenação.
O banho de azul de metila seria mais eficaz, pois é antibacteriano, informações aqui .. Tubbing and Safe Meds - Oregon Axolotls

Hello Wolfen thank you very much for answering me, I've been looking in the forum and you answer many people, I have to thank you thank you, I will deal with the saline solution, today was the first day but I will do it more often, in your opinion I try first with the solution to then switch to blue? thank you really for replying, I think he ended up biting the aquarium leaves that hurt him, what do you think of his development, is he small for 2 years? why do other axolotls have large gills?

 

[axolotl nerd]

Hello Wolfen thank you very much for answering me, I've been looking in the forum and you answer many people, I have to thank you thank you, I will deal with the saline solution, today was the first day but I will do it more often, in your opinion I try first with the solution to then switch to blue? thank you really for replying, I think he ended up biting the aquarium leaves that hurt him, what do you think of his development, is he small for 2 years? why do other axolotls have large gills?

i think he is small for his age. this is likely a result of diet- what do you usually feed him? i very highly recommend earthworms as a staple (or, main) diet choice.
gill size is usually up to genetics, he does seem to have short gill stalks but his filaments (the pinkish threadlike bits) look great.
@wolfen is right - the holfreters solution should help greatly.
meth. blue should also do very well, but those are administered via baths (or putting your axolotl into a tub of the mixture)

 

[Vitoria yuri]

i think he is small for his age. this is likely a result of diet- what do you usually feed him? i very highly recommend earthworms as a staple (or, main) diet choice.
gill size is usually up to genetics, he does seem to have short gill stalks but his filaments (the pinkish threadlike bits) look great.
@wolfen is right - the holfreters solution should help greatly.
meth. blue should also do very well, but those are administered via baths (or putting your axolotl into a tub of the mixture)

thanks for your answer, I'm taking baths with him for 10 minutes only, is it a good way? would refrigerate it be good? I'm feeding him with blood worms, it's his main food, I'm afraid to give him live things, would it be good for him to eat something alive? Are industrialized rations harmful? I've seen people in japan feeding him small thin pieces of chicken meat, but I didn't do any out of fear, maybe I should feed him more times a day?what is a good diet? Thank you for your help

 

[axolotl nerd]

thanks for your answer, I'm taking baths with him for 10 minutes only, is it a good way? would refrigerate it be good? I'm feeding him with blood worms, it's his main food, I'm afraid to give him live things, would it be good for him to eat something alive? Are industrialized rations harmful? I've seen people in japan feeding him small thin pieces of chicken meat, but I didn't do any out of fear, maybe I should feed him more times a day?what is a good diet? Thank you for your help

i'm not sure about japan, but in the US there are places you can get live earthworms for fairly cheap- they're great and axolotls love them. i would continue the baths but without refrigeration, as that can be dangerous. live food usually can't harm an axolotl (unless its fish or something spiny, which isn't recommended) so live worms won't hurt him at all. i've never fed any of my axolotls processed meats, mostly because they are often packed with hormones.
my official recommendation is;
- one chopped, live earthworm every day or every other day, depending on his hunger level. if he can eat a whole worm, that would be even better
- monitor his weight (or size, rather) to see if he improves
- if he becomes picky and won't eat the earthworms, try feeding him bloodworms as well as earthworms

tried to make this easy to understand as i don't think english is your mother tongue, but if you have questions please be sure to ask!!
good luck

 

[Vitoria yuri]

Update on axolotl,
I made the solution and the methylene blue bath seems to have improved a lot, I think it's healing, I don't know if it's slow or normal, I took it out of quarantine and put it in an auxiliary tank I took out all the things that could have hurt him and in the tank assistant, i believe the mouth wound was due to something from the tank decoration he tried to bite, but there were no dangerous things, just house, i will put new things in the original tank if anyone wants to give an opinion i gladly accept it, i have some clay items and they don't seem to have a very nice finish, I was thinking of covering with silicone and using, can I use silicone gel in my aquarium? I gave him a worm to eat chopped he ate a piece, he is eating little but every day he pecks the tweezers, I think it's ok right? he is less active than usual, is everything ok?
note: I've been very worried about him

 

[axolotl nerd]

Update on axolotl,
I made the solution and the methylene blue bath seems to have improved a lot, I think it's healing, I don't know if it's slow or normal, I took it out of quarantine and put it in an auxiliary tank I took out all the things that could have hurt him and in the tank assistant, i believe the mouth wound was due to something from the tank decoration he tried to bite, but there were no dangerous things, just house, i will put new things in the original tank if anyone wants to give an opinion i gladly accept it, i have some clay items and they don't seem to have a very nice finish, I was thinking of covering with silicone and using, can I use silicone gel in my aquarium? I gave him a worm to eat chopped he ate a piece, he is eating little but every day he pecks the tweezers, I think it's ok right? he is less active than usual, is everything ok?
note: I've been very worried about him

he does seem to be doing better, though there looks as if his face is still a bit misshapen - could you provide pictures of him from before the injury? it's entirely possible he normally looks like that and i'm just overthinking, but still would like to make sure.
continue the treatments until he is 100% healed, meth. blue is very useful.
it is likely that he scraped himself on a bit of tank decor, so removing all decor and checking for sharp edges is advised. i would be interested in seeing what new things you mentioned putting in.
from what i know, silicone is okay for use in aquariums, but i think there is something called "aquarium sealant" or something of that nature that is made especially for aquariums. with the clay decorations, it may be a good idea to sand them down.
it's great news that he's been eating throughout all of this, i wouldn't worry about that. keep offering food one or two times a day and monitoring him.
the decrease in his activity may just be from him healing his injury, or it could be nothing. axolotls can be quite lazy creatures at times.
i think your worry is understandable, but he seems to be getting close to a full recovery. good luck

 

[Vitoria yuri]

he does seem to be doing better, though there looks as if his face is still a bit misshapen - could you provide pictures of him from before the injury? it's entirely possible he normally looks like that and i'm just overthinking, but still would like to make sure.
continue the treatments until he is 100% healed, meth. blue is very useful.
it is likely that he scraped himself on a bit of tank decor, so removing all decor and checking for sharp edges is advised. i would be interested in seeing what new things you mentioned putting in.
from what i know, silicone is okay for use in aquariums, but i think there is something called "aquarium sealant" or something of that nature that is made especially for aquariums. with the clay decorations, it may be a good idea to sand them down.
it's great news that he's been eating throughout all of this, i wouldn't worry about that. keep offering food one or two times a day and monitoring him.
the decrease in his activity may just be from him healing his injury, or it could be nothing. axolotls can be quite lazy creatures at times.
i think your worry is understandable, but he seems to be getting close to a full recovery. good luck

is there a limit amount to take the baths?, or intervals of days?
I bought the methylene blue in a fish store
I believe he bit this green leaves decoration, i tried to put real plants in my aquarium but it seems irritated with the plants moving so i thought artifices would be good, i came back talking to the person who gave it to me and apparently he is younger than I expected
I put a picture of the clay house I bought, but it looks sharp so I thought I'd cover it with silicone, or sand it
now he always has his head hidden, LOL he looks like a teenager angry with his mother, maybe the baths made him angry, but it's to improve his health
thank you for always answering

 

[wolfen]

50% holtfreters can be used in the tank water all the time providing salts and minerals that are required to stay healthy, it will also help encourage gill growth.
methyline blue baths can be done daily until the cut has closed up to protect from infections.
make sure the water is oxygenated with an air stone to encourage gill growth and discourage surface gulping.
because of the force required to cause the damage under the mouth your axolotl probably face bombed into something after gulping air.
live food such as small shrimp ie.. river, ghost, etc.. small live bearing fish ie.. platys, guppies, mollies, etc.. worms ie.. earth, blood, red wriglers etc.. are all fine as food.
frozen food such as bloodworm, krill, mysis, brineshrimp, beefheart, chopped cockle/mussel/prawns are also ideal.
also axolotl pellets can be used, axolotls used to be fed beef liver strips in labs and colonies so chicken strips isn't that unusual, the main thing is that axolotls are carnivores and have to have a meat based diet.
when using fake plants make sure that nothing can be pulled of as there has been incidents of fake plant ingestion.

 

[axolotl nerd]

is there a limit amount to take the baths?, or intervals of days?
I bought the methylene blue in a fish store
I believe he bit this green leaves decoration, i tried to put real plants in my aquarium but it seems irritated with the plants moving so i thought artifices would be good, i came back talking to the person who gave it to me and apparently he is younger than I expected
I put a picture of the clay house I bought, but it looks sharp so I thought I'd cover it with silicone, or sand it
now he always has his head hidden, LOL he looks like a teenager angry with his mother, maybe the baths made him angry, but it's to improve his health
thank you for always answering

meth. blue can be used daily until the wounds completely heal, as wolfen said.
i also agree with his idea that he had divebombed into a plant or hide and hurt himself, as axolotls are known for doing so.
about how old is he? i thought he looked young.
from what i can see the clay hides look great, and i don't see anything sharp. (i would also like to know where you got them!!) i would still sand them just in case.
good luck, keep us updated.

 

[Vitoria yuri]

50% de holtfres pode usar o tanque o tempo todo ser saudável, usado também a alavancar o crescimento das crianças saudáveis

banhos de azul de metilina podem ser feitos diariamente até que o corte se feche para proteger contra infecções.
certifique-se de que a água seja oxigenada com uma pedra de ar para estimular o crescimento das guelras e desencorajar a deglutição da superfície.
por causa da força necessária para causar o dano sob a boca, seu axolote provavelmente será bombardeado em algo depois de engolir ar.
alimentos vivos, como pequenos camarões, ou seja, rio, fantasma, etc. pequenos peixes vivos, ou seja, platys, guppies, mollies, etc. vermes, ou seja, terra, sangue, wriglers vermelhos etc. são todos bons como alimento .
alimentos congelados, como bloodworm, krill, mysis, brineshrimp, beefheart, berbigão picado/mexilhão/camarão também são ideais.
também podem ser usados pellets de axolote, os axolotes costumavam ser alimentados com tiras de fígado bovino em laboratórios e colônias, então tiras de frango não são tão incomuns, o principal é que os axolotes são carnívoros e precisam ter uma dieta baseada em carne.
ao usar plantas falsas, certifique-se de que nada pode ser retirado, pois houve incidentes de ingestão de plantas falsas.

muito obrigado lobo, estou fazendo os banhos ele ainda não está comendo muito ontem ele fez muito cocô mas hoje quando fui olhar para ele sem motivo ele teve um ataque de estresse e nadou muito rápido de um lado do mar tanque para o outro então ele bateu o rosto no próprio tanque e abriu a ferida novamente depois disso ele se escondeu atrás da casinha, estou em pânico não sei mais o que fazer, vou continuar com o banho azul , minha mãe me questionou sobre a visão dele, ele sempre batia o rosto no tanque mas nunca teve uma lesão

 

[Vitoria yuri]

metanfetamina azul pode ser usado diariamente até que as feridas cicatrizem completamente, como disse wolfen.
também concordo com sua ideia de que ele mergulhou em uma planta ou se escondeu e se machucou, como os axolotes são conhecidos por fazer isso.
sobre quantos anos ele tem? achei que ele parecia jovem.
pelo que posso ver, as peles de barro parecem ótimas, e não vejo nada afiado. (eu também gostaria de saber onde você os conseguiu!!) eu ainda os lixaria para o caso.
boa sorte, nos mantenha atualizados.

Axolotl nerd obrigado pelas respostas, estou tomando banho hoje ele sangrou quando bateu o rosto no vidro do tanque estou muito triste, comprei na Amazon se não encontrar posso procurar por você, eu não sei o que fazer estou muito preocupado com sua recuperação

 

[Vitoria yuri]

depois do banho azul de hoje, today and yesterday did not eat anything

 

[axolotl nerd]

50% de holtfres pode usar o tanque o tempo todo ser saudável, usado também a alavancar o crescimento das crianças saudáveis

muito obrigado lobo, estou fazendo os banhos ele ainda não está comendo muito ontem ele fez muito cocô mas hoje quando fui olhar para ele sem motivo ele teve um ataque de estresse e nadou muito rápido de um lado do mar tanque para o outro então ele bateu o rosto no próprio tanque e abriu a ferida novamente depois disso ele se escondeu atrás da casinha, estou em pânico não sei mais o que fazer, vou continuar com o banho azul , minha mãe me questionou sobre a visão dele, ele sempre batia o rosto no tanque mas nunca teve uma lesão

unfortunate to hear he's injured himself again, i would move him into a tub with only smooth hides (such as coffee mugs) and continue the medicated baths.

 

[axolotl nerd]

depois do banho azul de hoje, today and yesterday did not eat anything

he does look better now, even after hitting his head. keep offering food and continue baths, and do your best not to worry. it isn't your fault that he's injured, and you're doing everything you can to help the situation.

 

[Vitoria yuri]

ele parece melhor agora, mesmo depois de bater a cabeça. continue oferecendo comida e banhos, e faça o possível para não se preocupar. não é sua culpa que ele esteja ferido, e você está fazendo tudo o que pode para ajudar a

obrigado por toda a ajuda, comprei um novo jarro, na sua opinião é bom? Ou devo colocar uma caneca? Eu coloquei sua casa do outro lado da pedra, acho que é uma pedra muito grande, what is your opinion?

 

[axolotl nerd]

obrigado por toda a ajuda, comprei um novo jarro, na sua opinião é bom? Ou devo colocar uma caneca? Eu coloquei sua casa do outro lado da pedra, acho que é uma pedra muito grande, what is your opinion?

i'd probably remove the rock and put in a few mugs. the jug hide seems to be suitable, unless there are any sharp edges i can't see

 

[wolfen]

the rock would be fine if placed away from the glass, axolotls have a habit of trying to squeeze into the narrowest of spaces.
move the air stone to the opposite side of the tank to allow for better oxygenation.
increase the depth of the water, the less water the faster nitrogen compounds build up plus more water changes required, also more water means more room to swim.
feed daily if possible until torso the same width as head as she is quite small for age.
continue using holtfreters at 50% in the water as this will help heal and encourage gill growth.
monitor the water parameters with a liquid test kit, this is very important whilst healing from injury.

 

[Vitoria yuri]

eu provavelmente removeria a pedra e colocaria algumas canecas. a pele do jarro parece ser adequada, a menos que haja arestas afiadas que não consigo ver

aparentemente este não parece representar nenhum perigo