New Salamandra, S.algira splendens

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In a review of Moroccan amphibians published tomorrow, the Rif and mid-Atlas population of the Salamandra algira complex is described as S.algira splendens. This population has previously been identified as distinct from all other named forms in the North African species complex.

In addition, the divergent Moroccan green toad, "Pseudepidalea" brongersmai is assigned its own genus, Barbarophryne.

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2013/f/z03661p060f.pdf
WOUTER BEUKEMA, PHILIP DE POUS, DAVID DONAIRE-BARROSO, SERGÉ BOGAERTS, JOAN GARCIA-PORTA, DANIEL ESCORIZA, OSCAR J. ARRIBAS, EL HASSAN EL MOUDEN & SALVADOR CARRANZA, 2013. Review of the systematics, distribution, biogeography and natural history of Moroccan amphibians. Zootaxa 3661(1):1-60.

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While the authors provided me a copy, it is also now available from Research Gate at no charge.
 

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I would be very interested in reading more about this sub species can you direct me to some literature please?
 

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You can pick and choose your sources, as well as discover some of those which are available for free, with a Google Scholar search. Search for key words 'salamandra splendens pdf' and you should mainly find academic papers including this subspecies, in pdf format. Don't use quotation marks, and you need not include algira [within Salamandra, only Salamandra algira can have a subspecies "splendens"] For that matter, you MIGHT find a couple of extra sources if you omit "pdf", but most useful references are available in pdf format.
 

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Thank you for the information. I've found some literature via straight forward Google but will try adding with your recommendations. I have this subspecies.
 
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    Ok, I'll go to the pet store this afternoon to get some pH up
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    one second, let me do some research
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    ok, thank you so much
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  • Paige1warren:
    Okay so what I found is lower pH can bring on the symptoms ur lil guy is having. Your pH isn’t too too low, but it is lower then recommended so it’s possible having him exposed to a low pH for an extended amount of time has caused him to be really stressed out and stopped eating. Is your tank with the sand still set up and running? And if so, what is the pH in that tank? I’m thinking a filtered tank might be the best for him, but still leave him in the tub until he seems to be improving. Could you send me a picture of the sand and of your little guy? I put my girl on sand when she was still fairly small and it is normally fine if the sand is fine.
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    Poor baby, this is all my fault.
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  • Paige1warren:
    if the tank isn’t set up, that’s okay. I would recommend today going and getting an air stone to put in the tub that hes currently in. Creating more aeration in the water can increase pH. You can also add 1 teaspoon of baking soda very slowly for 5 gallons of water to help. I don’t know much about the baking soda thing and I’m not sure how completely safe it is. This might help explain it a little better How to adjust the pH in your aquarium
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    The tank is still running, I am cycling it (for 2 weeks) with guppys
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  • Josiane:
    Probably too soon, I read it take 6-8 weeks to cycle
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    How can I upload a pic?
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    hey! Don’t blame it on yourself. It happens. Is this your first axie? I’m a newer owner as well if so (I’ve had mine since Oct). I know how scary it can be
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    He's my first yes...
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    if you have the API water test kit, check all the perimeters in the tank. We can check the cycling process with the perimeters. And I’m actually not sure how to upload a pic lololol I thought it would be easier but I tried it myself and now I’m confused! It says to attack a link, I’m not sure how that works
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    Dont beat yourself up over this, your little guy will be ok 😊
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    I will do that for sure this afternoon! I really hope he pulls through :( He's so freakin cute
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    Thanks for your help :)
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    You’re so welcome! Keep a close eye on him and try to offer food a couple times a day. Maybe try some pellets too for a different smell, might get him interested. Keep me updated!
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    Will do, thanks!
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  • Josiane:
    @Paige1warren, turns out my pH was spot on, the test strips I had used were no good. I bought an API kit and the levels are all fine. So not the issue :( I just posted in the forum
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  • Paige1warren:
    Hey @Josiane ! I just responded to your post. Your little guy actually looks fairly decent for his size despite not eating well. I think it is stress from the environment
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  • Paige1warren:
    Also I forgot to add to my response on ur thread, keep trying to feed him bloodworms and see if he will start to take them. If you get a turkey vaster you can suck up dethawed bloodworms and dangle them right infront of his nose, might get his interest.
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    I rotate between blood worms and brine shrimp. He's in my bedroom and will stay there for a while, I closed the light and just left a salt lamp on. I will bring him a hiding place right away! Isn't he the cutest thing! 😂
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    Thanks for the reassurance!!
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    @Josiane An axolotl of your's size should be on a diet of chopped earthworms or live blackworms (if they're under 3"). Bloodworms and brine shrimp are not a sufficient diet.
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    @Josiane Based on the photo, I believe there is a chance your axolotl may have become impacted from ingesting sand. Axolotls under 5" should not be kept on substrate for this reason.
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need to test your tap water's parameters using a liquid test kit (not strips! Those are inaccurate). The slime coat coming off may also be due to water quality or the water conditioner.
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