T. Yangi cooling and breeding.

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I have a giant larvae living in an 'aqua composter' that has grown large gills and doesn't show any sign of color yet. Some of the others are developing their rough skin. I also set up a new tub as they are getting big, so I have split them into smaller groups.
 

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The first one is out! This guy took to land yesterday. Since leaving its skin has gotten considerably rougher.
 

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The first one is out! This guy took to land yesterday. Since leaving its skin has gotten considerably rougher.
Greath Job Steve

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Thanks Herman! I actually just saw your fb msg regarding the shanjing eggs, must have gotten buried in birthday messages on Facebook apologies!


The first few have morphed. The first one to do so I left in the larvae tub as there was a lot of cork bark for it to roam. The next morning I found it dead, it seems to have drown upon re entering the water. Now as they morph I have been removing them into a bin of cork bark with a wet paper towel bottom, and haven't lost any since (touch wood). After they left the water they developed their characteristic head ridges.
 

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The first 2 that left water have started to eat. After doing so they became a lot more active, they were like statues before. You can tell metamorphosing is a very stressful process for them, which is likely why there can be high mortality at morph. Out of 5 to morph I have only lost 1 so far, hoping the others pull through touch wood. They pretty much look like mini adults minus the orange warts which look to be developing slowly.
 

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Excellent job so far ,responsibility is on you now to raise the young and breed the F1/2
I lost all mine when my mother inlaw cooked them sadly,adults are still here but don't want to breed regardless of conditions
so see if you can get your juvies to grow and breed.
can I ask was the only heating on your adult tank the lighting ?
 

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Thank you! I am hoping I can raise you a male, I think I recall you were looking for one. Yes the only heat I had was the heat lamp, which was at one end of the tank. It was warming the land portion, I figure even in the summer the water is pretty cold especially in the morning, so the water stayed about 18-19 degrees. It can be hard to warm them without warming the water too much, the larger the water volume the easier it is to keep the water temp from changing as much.
 

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I think you might be on to something ,with the cool water and warm land,I tried mine in the garden this summer ,the water was cool but the land never got warm enough (Scottish summer) .The animals did spend a lot of time in the water part but didn't eat much and the male hasn't come into condition. Can always try again next year
 

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Excellent job so far ,responsibility is on you now to raise the young and breed the F1/2
I lost all mine when my mother inlaw cooked them sadly,adults are still here but don't want to breed regardless of conditions
so see if you can get your juvies to grow and breed.
can I ask was the only heating on your adult tank the lighting ?
Sorry to reed this Aaron, it's such a beautyful newt, hope Steve has More LUCK with raising them,how Are your shanjing's doing? I hope well.

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I think you might be on to something ,with the cool water and warm land,I tried mine in the garden this summer ,the water was cool but the land never got warm enough (Scottish summer) .The animals did spend a lot of time in the water part but didn't eat much and the male hasn't come into condition. Can always try again next year

I had just remembered going herping in the summer on a sweltering day, and the water was almost ice cold and it was in the sun. In those shaded areas where they are from especially during typhoon season, warm winds sweep over but would be unlikely to cause a significant water temperature increase. I think warming up the land makes the temp difference between water and land even greater, which I think is something they would be reminded of every time they enter or leave the water. I wondering how long the babies will take to mature.
 

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Posting an update of the babies, they all made it with exception of the first to morph. I rehomed some to other experienced tylototriton keepers in Canada in hopes of them having success once they are of age. I am also hoping being captive bred they will be easier to breed but it will be a while until iI find out. Their home is seeded with pinheads, springtails, dwarf white isopods and I also tong feed them occasional earth and wax worms. They just started to plump up recently.
 

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Posting an update of the babies, they all made it with exception of the first to morph. I rehomed some to other experienced tylototriton keepers in Canada in hopes of them having success once they are of age. I am also hoping being captive bred they will be easier to breed but it will be a while until iI find out. Their home is seeded with pinheads, springtails, dwarf white isopods and I also tong feed them occasional earth and wax worms. They just started to plump up recently.
Great Job Steve

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    Ok, I'll go to the pet store this afternoon to get some pH up
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    one second, let me do some research
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    ok, thank you so much
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  • Paige1warren:
    Okay so what I found is lower pH can bring on the symptoms ur lil guy is having. Your pH isn’t too too low, but it is lower then recommended so it’s possible having him exposed to a low pH for an extended amount of time has caused him to be really stressed out and stopped eating. Is your tank with the sand still set up and running? And if so, what is the pH in that tank? I’m thinking a filtered tank might be the best for him, but still leave him in the tub until he seems to be improving. Could you send me a picture of the sand and of your little guy? I put my girl on sand when she was still fairly small and it is normally fine if the sand is fine.
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    Poor baby, this is all my fault.
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  • Paige1warren:
    if the tank isn’t set up, that’s okay. I would recommend today going and getting an air stone to put in the tub that hes currently in. Creating more aeration in the water can increase pH. You can also add 1 teaspoon of baking soda very slowly for 5 gallons of water to help. I don’t know much about the baking soda thing and I’m not sure how completely safe it is. This might help explain it a little better How to adjust the pH in your aquarium
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  • Josiane:
    The tank is still running, I am cycling it (for 2 weeks) with guppys
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  • Josiane:
    Probably too soon, I read it take 6-8 weeks to cycle
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    How can I upload a pic?
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  • Paige1warren:
    hey! Don’t blame it on yourself. It happens. Is this your first axie? I’m a newer owner as well if so (I’ve had mine since Oct). I know how scary it can be
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    He's my first yes...
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    if you have the API water test kit, check all the perimeters in the tank. We can check the cycling process with the perimeters. And I’m actually not sure how to upload a pic lololol I thought it would be easier but I tried it myself and now I’m confused! It says to attack a link, I’m not sure how that works
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    Dont beat yourself up over this, your little guy will be ok 😊
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  • Josiane:
    I will do that for sure this afternoon! I really hope he pulls through :( He's so freakin cute
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  • Josiane:
    Thanks for your help :)
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  • Paige1warren:
    You’re so welcome! Keep a close eye on him and try to offer food a couple times a day. Maybe try some pellets too for a different smell, might get him interested. Keep me updated!
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    Will do, thanks!
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  • Josiane:
    @Paige1warren, turns out my pH was spot on, the test strips I had used were no good. I bought an API kit and the levels are all fine. So not the issue :( I just posted in the forum
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  • Paige1warren:
    Hey @Josiane ! I just responded to your post. Your little guy actually looks fairly decent for his size despite not eating well. I think it is stress from the environment
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  • Paige1warren:
    Also I forgot to add to my response on ur thread, keep trying to feed him bloodworms and see if he will start to take them. If you get a turkey vaster you can suck up dethawed bloodworms and dangle them right infront of his nose, might get his interest.
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  • Josiane:
    I rotate between blood worms and brine shrimp. He's in my bedroom and will stay there for a while, I closed the light and just left a salt lamp on. I will bring him a hiding place right away! Isn't he the cutest thing! 😂
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    Thanks for the reassurance!!
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane An axolotl of your's size should be on a diet of chopped earthworms or live blackworms (if they're under 3"). Bloodworms and brine shrimp are not a sufficient diet.
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane Based on the photo, I believe there is a chance your axolotl may have become impacted from ingesting sand. Axolotls under 5" should not be kept on substrate for this reason.
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need to test your tap water's parameters using a liquid test kit (not strips! Those are inaccurate). The slime coat coming off may also be due to water quality or the water conditioner.
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    madcaplaughs: @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need... +1
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