We have one T.shanjing larva who doesn't want to morph

dutch guy

New member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
155
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Lelystad
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
herman


This larva is in the Large tank with the parents and some other larvae who are a lot smaller. The test of the badge is already morphed, we have 26 of them.
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
65
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
I have some huge T. verrucosus that haven't morphed yet. They're about a year old and have some adult characteristics as well as large gills. I think if conditions are favourable in the water, they seem to prolong their larval stage to make the most of it.
 

mr cyclone

Active member
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
562
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Edinburgh Scotland
Country
Scotland
Once the larvae have started to show shanjing colouration and are half grown have you tried doubling the water depth and increasing the oxygen to see if more animals remain neotenic?
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
65
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
Yeah, I forgot to say mine are in very deep water, knowing it won't dry up any time soon could also be a factor in them taking their time?
 

dutch guy

New member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
155
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Lelystad
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
herman
Its one of the larvae in the parents tank, there is already a flow in the water
because a Small Electric filter runs in it, its gills are shrinking now, so i think it will metamorphing soon.
The water is in this tank aprox 10 cm, its the onelyone the rest is morphing normaly.

Tylototriton Shanjing 3,5,19
 

mr cyclone

Active member
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
562
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Edinburgh Scotland
Country
Scotland
Yes it's a big factor with Verrucosus for sure I experimented quite a bit with them with deep water and different temperatures
 

dutch guy

New member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
155
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Lelystad
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
herman
I have noticed that when there are onely a few larvae left, they take there time to morph, so lowering the water level wil Help some times.

Tylototriton Shanjing 3,5,19
 

Jort

New member
Joined
Jun 29, 2016
Messages
52
Reaction score
1
Points
0
Location
The province of Zeeland
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
Jort
I've had this with verrucosus once. It was the last one in the water, so het had the tanks for himself, and the temperatures were already getting colder. When he morphed he was bigger than all other siblings.
 

Chinadog

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
May 8, 2013
Messages
2,685
Reaction score
65
Points
48
Location
Chesterfield, England
Country
England
I've had this with verrucosus once. It was the last one in the water, so het had the tanks for himself, and the temperatures were already getting colder. When he morphed he was bigger than all other siblings.

Yeah, the lack of competition for the available food seems to be another factor in the equation.
 

mr cyclone

Active member
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
562
Reaction score
25
Points
28
Location
Edinburgh Scotland
Country
Scotland
Lack of competition can be a factor, but I've raised a giant in with 6 adults before and the large larva held her own
 

dutch guy

New member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
155
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Lelystad
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
herman


Almost there.

Tylototriton Shanjing 3,5,19
 

dutch guy

New member
Joined
Feb 15, 2010
Messages
155
Reaction score
5
Points
0
Location
Lelystad
Country
Netherlands
Display Name
herman
Lack of competition can be a factor, but I've raised a giant in with 6 adults before and the large larva held her own
The little one didn't Make it

Verstuurd vanaf mijn LENNY2 met Tapatalk
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Chat Bot:
    ChocoUniversa has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • ellarose:
    +1
    Unlike
  • ellarose:
    Go to the fishless cycle tab :)
    +1
    Unlike
  • MidgetMan:
    @tduzz, where do you live? Like roughly. What country are you in?
    +1
    Unlike
  • tduzz:
    @MidgetMan, Massachusetts but I can give anywhere in the new England area
    +1
    Unlike
  • AMurry24537:
    @ChocoUniversa, Buy some ammonia and an eyedropper from Walmart and a water test kit for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates. Figure out (through testing) how many drops it will take to get the ammonia level to the test's maximum measurement. Add that same number of drops every 24 hours. Eventually, the ammonia will start to go down as it's converted to nitrites. Keep adding ammonia. The nitrite levels will spike for a while and then they too will start to go down as they convert to nitrates. These you get rid of by doing water changes, which you should be doing anyway throughout the process. Once all of these are at low levels, your aquarium is ready. It takes about a month, maybe two (mine took a month and a half). Be sure to add ammonia until the day of or the day before you add your axolotl.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Kmia_13:
    Hey guys, this is my first time using this so bear with me. I have an adult axie who looks like he’s developed some fungus on gills. It’s still really small and only on one part. I put him in a 10 gal quarantine tank with an Indian almond leaf. I want to give him a black tea bath but not sure if I can add my black tea to the tank with the Indian almond leaf in there. Any advice?
    +1
    Unlike
  • Gillygills:
    Hi, My axolotl has just started morphing, but has some fungal spot behind the gill.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Gillygills:
    Should I fridge therapy and salt wash? or will this not be wise when she is morphing.
    +1
    Unlike
  • BChen3695:
    Need help identifying what’s wrong with my axolotl
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    @BChen3695, what are your parameters and temp? The fact that they're raised bumps could indicate fungus or bacterial infection.
    +2
    Unlike
  • XxJennXx:
    Hi! I have recently gotten a spotted salamander. Did some research and found lots of info, but just wondering if they brumate in captivity! Thank you to anyone who can answer this ☺
    +1
    Unlike
  • Pookisoo:
    Hello its urgent!
    +1
    Unlike
  • Pookisoo:
    I have a tiger salamander and i got him as a gift , recently it looks like something has been eating at his tail! Almost like its dissolving..? Ive checked that there is no other bugs in the closure, ive also ben giving him salt baths but its inly getting worse. Sorry if its much hahaha im just super worried!😓
    +1
    Unlike
  • afmtgn:
    Hi @Pookisoo it seems to be a fungal disease
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    @XxJennXx, I don't believe so. They are closely related to tigers and my tiger doesn't brumate. I think first year they might but after they see they aren't needing to, they should be good. They might try and hibernate to, mine did for the first year but now I see him crawling around right now.
    +1
    Unlike
  • XxJennXx:
    @MVM1991, ok thanks :)
    +1
    Unlike
  • Pookisoo:
    @afmtgn, is there anything i can do about it?
    +1
    Unlike
  • RG:
    @Pookisoo, The refrigerator is a good hospital for tigers.Temperature between 7 and 2 degrees Celsius can stop bacteria. If necessary or if you dare 0 to -2 can also help.Reduce the temperature in a few days from 7 degrees to 2. After that you can reduce further. Feel free to let it sit for a few weeks. Place the animal in a plastic container with a lid with some air holes. Fill it with some soil and / or leaves. Check regularly whether there is still moisture or ice in this container. At temperatures above 2 degrees, they do not go into hibernation. They will then live on their reserves. Doing nothing is not an option, I speak from experience. You can avoid these kinds of problems by keeping them fairly dry for much of the year.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Paige1warren:
    Hi guys! I’m new to this site and a new axolotl owner. I’ve had my baby (his name is toothpick) for about a month or so now. I finally got a water testing kit and I tested the perimeters earlier today. My ammonia was at 3 ppm and my nitrite was at 2 ppm. This freaked me out because I know they are supposed to be at 0 ppm. I did a water change a little bit ago and it went down to ammonia 1 ppm and in between 1-2 ppm nitrate. I change 50% of my water weekly and clean up any pieces of waste or excess food with a turkey bastwr everyday. Could this just be because the tank isn’t fully cycled yet? Should I be concerned? Toothpick hasn’t shown any signs of distress
    +1
    Unlike
  • Pookisoo:
    @RG, yeah.. im a new owner and i thought just giving salt baths would work, Thank you so much for this tho!🤗
    +1
    Unlike
  • Pookisoo:
    Sorry again... but when i take him out is he supposed to be moving funny..? Sorry hahaha🤕
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    @Paige1warren You need to tub your axolotl and perform 100% daily water changes. Your tank is not fully cycled, and any readings of ammonia or nitrite are toxic and potentially deadly. A fully cycled tank should at all times have readings of 0ppm ammonia/0ppm nitrite/0pmm<nitrate.
    +1
    Unlike
    madcaplaughs: @Paige1warren You need to tub your axolotl and perform 100% daily water changes. Your tank is... +1
    Top