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(Quote)Rob, take a look under the title "Something very disturbing about Petshops" In the Free for all that I posted. (Quote)

i did read that post last night, thx
yep i think it's discusting how some petshop owners
dont look after there animals, and should be at least fined if there is serious misconduct or there licences taken off them ! in servere cases
i wont feed my axies feeder fish anymore, thev'e only had two each
" what if i breed them myself ? "
got myself a new tank today so i can make better living conditions for my axies
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it's 93 x 46 x 46 and got a Fluval 304 cannister filter, that i will modify and put a spray bar on
i asked 3 different aquarium shops today on what medium is the best to use and they all say gravel
one bloke got all fired up with me !!! saying sand is harmfull to them and he recommended gravel of about 2-5cm " what should i use ? "
i must say all his animals were in pristine condition.
what i have in my smaller tank is like a course sand and they seem to like it "i hand feed"
want to strat cycling my new tank but wanted ur opinions first ?
 
Rob - Use sand. Don't go with the pet shops are saying, they have no idea what they are talking about. Sand or a bare tank bottom are your best options. Even gravel at that size can be swallowed. Next time you stop in at that shop, if you want to, you can tell that shop about this site and that it gives excellent information.

If you quarantine your breeder fish, the male and the female for 30 days, see how they are and if they are healthy, then you can try and breed them to have your own feeder fish. A few people on this site do that and they have success. I think Grant was one that was doing that, Maja is also doing it too.

I will do it too once I get some room. I currently have far too many projects that I am working on.

Guppies, Mollies, these sorts of fish are good to breed. I wouldn't try and breed feeder goldfish. I have no idea how easy they are to breed either. Baby Convicts might work too as long as they are fed when they are small. They can be pretty aggressive.

If you need any further help, don't hesitate to ask
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I wouldn't go with bare-bottom though because isn't that stressful for the axies because they cant grip the bottom?
 
Jordan - Lots of people go with bare bottoms. Joan for one did it for a while I think she has sand now and some others here too, and a friend of mine uses the bare bottom too.

It's not stressful as long as there isn't much current and a few large rocks or decorations are placed in.

Rob - with the type of filter you have as long as the spray bar sprays across and hits the glass and trickles down, you shouldn't have a problem with water current. Either sand or a bare bottom will be just fine
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From axolotl.org: "It has been my experience that axolotls can't "grip" the bottom of a glass tank. This can be somewhat stressful over time." I wouldn't go with the bare bottom tank.
 
I keep all my juveniles on bare bottom until they're sexable. I don't use glass tanks for juvies, so this isn't a problem.
 
I'm sure its not for now, but i just want rob to know that bare-bottom tanks could cause stress.
 
Jordan,
Given that the axolotl colony houses all of thier axolotls in bare bottomed enclosures and has no problems I am willing to argue the stress statement.
Typically in animals, if the stressor is a constant and unvarying form of stress, it will be acclimated to by the animal and all physiological symptoms of stress will disappear. (for the full explination and bibliograhy see Health and Welfare of Captive Reptiles, Warwick etal).

Ed
 
I was just going on what was stated at axolotl.org, i personally have had no problems with it because i have sand. I was just trying to give rob the best advice and from axolotl.org, and that site is loaded with good axolotl facts and things.
 
hey guys,
i was thinking of getting pieces of cork and sticking them together with acquarium safe silicon to form a base on the tank... is this a good idea?
 
you mean you are going to use cork as a substrate? Like instead of using sand or gravel?
 
that is quite original, im sure it would work. It sounds good to me.
 
Hi Stefan!

You might want to double check that whatever you are sticking the cork pieces together with is okay for axolotls. I think some people have been using some sort of silicone glue to make decorations on their pipes, so you might want to wait for a moderator's advice on whether the cork is a good idea.
 
sweet thanks for the advice casey and jordan
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much appreciated!
 
yes, moderators do tend to know more on the subject. So it would be smart to get their advice.
 
thx for all the info guys it has really helped me get my tanks sorted out and my axies are the better for it
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i have now nearly finished my new tank and now just have to wait for it to finish cycling
i ended up going with a very fine sand which is on the forth day since i put it in and has now cleared nicely and today i added some decor
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there are a few nice little hidey spots for my axies, going to add a few more fake plants but thats about it, dont want it to get to crowded
on the second day after filling with sand i turned the filter on b4 work and came home and it had moved half the sand lol, so i made a spray bar out of a sprinkler riser and turned down the flow a little and is now all good
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this is it up too now
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it is in a temp spot for now till it's fiished cycling.......
 
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