C. Pyrrhogaster subspecies ID?

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Hiya,
below some pix of my long-term C.Pyrrhogasters.

3 of them have the more speckled, crimson belly, while the 4th (a male) has a belly that is more orange and less speckled, without the tiny white dots. You can see him in the first pic.

PS: forgive the fugly plastic plants - still looking for more live plants to buy...
 

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I´d say sasayamae, but Joost is the guy to ask about this.
 
The sasayamae is known by their white dots, although not every individual has them. The more speckled belly is also typical for this form. I've seen in captive bred animals btw, that they have a less speckled belly than wildcaught animals, and also the speckled belly is more seen in females.
I would say sasayamae as well, but it can be difficult to determine if the locality isn't known.
 
Your newts have beautiful red colouration. What do you feed them?
 
They, in all likelihood, are WC adults, and that´s why they have a very red coloration, Eva.
 
I got them 13 years ago at a pet shop. At the time, the vendor said they were "probably" captive-bred, but in hindsight I doubt they were...they were probably WC, yeah...

Eva - I feed them all kinds of things, but the staple are frozen bloodworms. Also, mosquito larva in summer (never a shortage of those in Alaska), crickets, earthworms, whatever bug flies in the window, and live or frozen daphnia.
 
Hello.
I'm agree with Azhael and Joost in the opinion about this exs. are probably like to sasayama, but, one newt (in the middle of 1st photo) in my opinion, it's not more tipical belly pattern for sasayama (but i think its sasayama) (but individual variation...), Molch you have more photos of this newt? i like watch other photos of this ex., only for curiosity....thanks!

Bye. Adeu
 
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Hello. one newt (in the middle of 1st photo) in my opinion, it's not more tipical belly pattern for sasayama (but i think its sasayama) (but individual variation...),

Please read my previous post ;)


...the speckled belly is more seen in females.
 
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Have a look to the males courting behavior!
Paul
 
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