Tylototriton ID Needed

[Viv]

Hi. I have a pair that I used to think were T. shanjing but I posted some pictures and they said that they were not T.shanjing but another species of tylototriton. Here is a picture. Can someone identify them.

 

[Mark]

It's a shanjing with the head of a kweichowensis Frankenstein has been at work....

I think its' probably just a shanjing with a dark head - quite unusual though.

 

[Azhael]

My vote goes for T.kweichowensis.

 

[sparkyr99]

They look exactly like mine. I was under the impression that the ones i got were T. shanjing, But i'm not an expert, yet!

 

[Ezequiel Nahuel]

Hi.
I think is T. shanjing x T. kweichowensis.
Bye

 

[Viv]

Hmm. Mixed results. I really want to know but I'm not an expert. Haha

 

[End]

Nice animal. I think T. Kweichowensis , he/she looks alot like my female ,

http://www.caudata.org/forum/f1173-...iton/71423-bit-different-t-kweichowensis.html

In this thread you can see some pictures

 

[Yahilles]

It's a shanjing with the head of a kweichowensis Frankenstein has been at work....

I think its' probably just a shanjing with a dark head - quite unusual though.

Don't shanjing posess orange limbs?

 

[Viv]

I don't know if this helps but the male has a little bump on his head.

 

[Joost]

It'sprobably a subspecies of T. kweichowensis. There have been more reports of kweicho's in the trade with dots in stead of dorsolateral lines.

 

[eljorgo]

Yes it does. I´ve noticed it emidiatly too. Its defenetly a t. kweichowensis with broken strips. Question is, subspecies of nominal T. kweichowensis or a hybrid like those presented all over the web as natural shanjing x kweichowensis hybrids?
Cheers,

 

[Mark]

Don't shanjing posess orange limbs?

Yes they do, and a google image search results in many kweichowensis examples with dorsolateral spots. You can definitely get kweichowensis without dorsolateral warts but I've never seen a shanjing without warts. There's already enough confusion over shanjing and verrucosus without kweichows getting in on the mix....:crazy:

 

[louise]

It looks very like my kweichows, having distinctive orange toes.

 

[Viv]

Man I am really confused. Haha. I'm confudled.

 

[Ezequiel Nahuel]

Hi all.
Here is a very helpful link:
Liangshan crocodile salamanders - The Alberta Reptile and Amphibian Society
If you think it´s inappropiate put this link, just delete it.
Bye

 

[Viv]

Mine looks the most like picture #3.

 

[freves]

How large is it?
Chip

 

[FrogEyes]

Hi all.
Here is a very helpful link:
Liangshan crocodile salamanders - The Alberta Reptile and Amphibian Society
If you think it´s inappropiate put this link, just delete it.
Bye

That's my thread. I have about 30 of these, and have seen about 100. They're very consistent, which argues against them being hybrids, and they differ in key features from both T.shanjing and T.kweichowensis. They are NOT T.shanjing. They MIGHT be a variant of T.kweichowensis, but since the latter in the past have been consistently three-striped with fused warts, I believe these to be an undescribed species. I have still not submitted preserved specimens for testing, but will be. Meanwhile, T.cf.kweichowensis is probably the best name. They like it quite dry, and a damp and humid environment tends to spell death for them.

 

[Jennewt]

Given the number of variants and intermediates I've seen, my guess (and it's totally just a wild guess) is that verrucosus, shanjing, and kweichowensis could be all one species with different geographical color/size variants. Just like Notophthalmus viridescens and it's wide distribution and color variants. The genetic work has been done for Notos, but not for Tylos.

 

[Viv]

They are about 6-7 inches long but I don't know their age but I am guessing they are almost fully grown.