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Salamandera Laurel and Hardy

Natalie

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I'm sooo excited! I have quintuplet fire salamanders! They are now just over 2 weeks old. I have raised many newt and axolotl larvae, but this is a bit different. No "jumping" for food as I am used to. Actually I don't see them eating at all. One is so fat, I am worried I am overfeeding, one or two are normal, and two or three are extremely skinny. Until now, I only remove dead food, hoping the skinny ones will put weight on. Anything I should be doing differently?
 

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Nice pics, but are the five in the same tank or separate ones ?
Even with enough food, problems of dominance within caudates are frequent.
Moreover, cannibalistic trends are widespread in Salamandra larvae.
Perhaps the skinny ones would thrive better in separate tanks.
 

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Thanks. I had them outside in the garage separated before, but unfortunately I had to bring them in and put them together as it's just gotten so cold. Most of my other animals are also inside now, so it's a question of space. I will watch for missing digits, etc. and if the skinny guys seem bullied, I will come up with something.
 

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I was thinking after last night about a way of separating them. Now this fella is going on a serious diet!
 

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I've never had "dominance" issues with fire salamander larvae together. They can get aggressive towards each other's legs and tails if they run out of food. That's why I feed them with live blackworms and always keep some in the water with them.
 
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    @FragileCorpse, Salamanders require a 10-12 hour day light cycle using an incandescent light with low levels of UVB lighting recommended. Never put your tank in direct sunlight, as the sunlight can heat the tank up too much.
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