FYI: Very strange Axolotl color morph...

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Please, sir, dig, sir! :p

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After a week of looking I found these two, I know I have some of younger embryos, but I can't find them right now.


 

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Excellent photos, thank you so much!

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ooh thats interesting, i have never seen anything that before. Thanks for sharing.

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The most embryos in one membrane was 8.
 

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Since chimeras are made by cramming embryonic cells together it seems a trait like this should increase the incidence of chimeras and the variable offspring colouring should reveal some of them.

Your axolotls are imitating scientists!

Did Pirate's mother have a similar trait?
 

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Since chimeras are made by cramming embryonic cells together it seems a trait like this should increase the incidence of chimeras and the variable offspring colouring should reveal some of them.

Your axolotls are imitating scientists!

Did Pirate's mother have a similar trait?

Pirate's mother did lay some eggs that were bunched together like that, mostly just 2 embryos per membrane though. The female that produced my latest chimeras ( http://www.caudata.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59787 ) on the other hand, did not lay any multiples like that.
 

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Just a quick update. I found a single strange color morph out of Pirate's first clutch. It is half leucistic, half something else. I'll post pics when I get a chance.

I also found these strange ones in a group of juveniles fathered by the same male as Pirate. http://www.caudata.org/forum/showthread.php?t=59787
 

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Do you have any pictures more recent. He is very interesting!
 

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Do you have any pictures more recent. He is very interesting!

I know this is old, but would just like to update. Pirate is alive and well and living with a couple out in Iowa. I'll see about getting some pics up soon. I wish I had taken more pictures of her underside to show her black belly!
 

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Good to hear Jake, have you got any recent pics of the other different colour larvae you mentioned above?
 

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Ooh the prospects of seeing pirate's photos again gives me the excited tingles. :p
 

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Anyone have an idea as to why one set of gills are smaller than the others? It hasn't been kept with others since it was a little over a half inch long, so I know they weren't bitten off.

Hi,

This has been posted a long time ago and you might know now why this is by now ;)

Your axie ist a classic chimera. This occurs when two parts of two different axies fuse in the very early stages of cell development. It's like siamese twins, but exactly 50-50. That is why its gills are not the same on both sides. They would have belonged to two different axolotls, one with long gills and one with short ones.

In Germany, there are more and more chimeras. It seems that there are some lines that produce them more often than others, so there seems to be some hereditary element to this.

What a great animal !

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Thats absolutely stunning... what kind of color are the mother and father of this one?

Could a white lucystic? and a wild type ever have an albino child?

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Absolutely incredible - I'd love to see more as time goes on :). What a stunning creature - makes me wonder if we'd get wild axies like this if we had let the population have its lakes rather than drain and channel them into a critically endangered species..... *sigh*
 
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Ditto - Just read this thread, are there any updates on Pirate Gareth?
 

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Pirate is one CRAZAY looking axie... and all I can say is... I want one!!! haha
He looks incredible.

I was thinking the other day - canaries get fed dyes to change their colour... I wonder if axies could do the same thing? on pirate it could be one side red, one side green for christmas! haha :)
OBVIOUSLY I'M JOKING! Don't dye your axies. It's just not friendly. :p
 

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Unfortunately, Pirate passed away recently.
 

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I am very sorry to hear she is gone, just saw her for the first time. She was super cool!!
Thanks for sharing her.
 

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WOW a piebald axolotl, first time in my live I see one, sad she died. No offsprings with the same mutation?
 
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